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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Minimum wage boost to benefit 210,000 people
    More than 200,000 people will benefit from an extra $48 a week next year in the biggest boost to the minimum wage in its history.
    The minimum wage rate will rise from $16.50 an hour to $17.70, taking effect on April 1 next year, Workplace Relations Minister Iain Lees-Galloway and NZ First employment relations spokesman Clayton Mitchell announced today.
    And where will the increase in productivity come from?

    More investment in plant which will see less jobs and lower skills.

    Just keeps adding overhead to NZ business who will at some stage decide making a loss is no fun and they will close down.

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    Living wage here we come at last and business confidence has bounced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Living wage here we come at last and business confidence has bounced.
    Living wage is no good if you are out of a job

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Ms Genter’s partner doing OK with this new government

    Probably deserves every cent

    https://mailchi.mp/4471cabeca72/reve...no-open-tender
    And I thought he must have been in the bicycle importing business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by minimoke View Post
    Living wage is no good if you are out of a job

    Just not enough workers atm!. $20 an hour here we come, a living wage for kiwis at last.

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    Minimum wage wil always be less than this fandangled thing called a ‘living wage’
    “Imagination is more important than knowledge.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Just not enough workers atm!. $20 an hour here we come, a living wage for kiwis at last.
    Well, if you can solve the old problem of increasing wages without increasing costs, and therefore consumer prices, you will have achieved 2 things.

    (1) You will have made wage earners genuinely better off.
    (2) You will do something that no-one else has never managed to do.

    And once you've achieved that, then double the minimum wage to $40 an hour - imagine how much better off we'd all be! Come to think of it - $100 per hour would be better still.

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    Yeah $100 an hour seems to be the norm for accountants, sparkies and tradesmen and mechanics these days already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Yeah $100 an hour seems to be the norm for accountants, sparkies and tradesmen and mechanics these days already.
    That's interesting. I know a few tradesmen. They'd be rightly annoyed at not being paid anything like that. Most don't even have a charge-out rate that high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Yeah $100 an hour seems to be the norm for accountants, sparkies and tradesmen and mechanics these days already.
    All people who have studied towards trade qualifications. They should get paid more than your school leaver - significantly more. But what we will now see is a blossoming of labour costs or a retraction on relativities. Which ends up being a disincentive for further study or skill improvement.

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    Living wage of $20 is still a bit of a joke imo, more of a subsistence..
    So many things labour have done this year its hard to keep up. same next year as all the needed reviews of the previous govts neglect bring about action.

    Jacinda Ardern’s Child Poverty Reduction Bill passes third reading in Parliament

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Living wage of $20 is still a bit of a joke imo, more of a subsistence..
    So many things labour have done this year its hard to keep up. same next year as all the needed reviews of the previous govts neglect bring about action.

    Jacinda Ardern’s Child Poverty Reduction Bill passes third reading in Parliament
    Did you see the tweetagram of teh Royal Child watching Mum pass the Bill on TV? Great parenting eh. Absent Mum and the kid stuck in front of the TV watching dross. Thats what I call Poverdy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minimoke View Post
    Did you see the tweetagram of teh Royal Child watching Mum pass the Bill on TV? Great parenting eh. Absent Mum and the kid stuck in front of the TV watching dross. Thats what I call Poverdy.
    That’s cool
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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    Those wage increases inevitably cause the inflation cycle to kick in, leaving wage earners no better off, but of great benefit to those who own their own property.
    Yes, worst affected will be businesses that can't pass on costs like exporters > like horticulture many have very thin profit margins and more so lifestyle business sector large lower wage work forces..think we will see many go under>>

    Nothing against lifting the min wage(we badly need it) but am much more a fan of free-markets economics ..ie.if businesses don't pay enough then they don't get workers etc...then more successive profitable businesses paying more take the workers etc.,.. but then if the worker don't mind doing the work for whatever reason..........

    Under this Govt its all about feel-good policy .. but the bigger picture is continuing gutting of high wage labour jobs(Fishing/Farming/Mining etc) in turn for more min wage tourism operations so I guess this push for $20 min wage makes sense us kiwis lose jobs being paid $30-$50+ph .....

    Property Construction will slow down much sooner than anyone expects IMHO then thats going to affect 1-10 Kiwi workers in the pocket very quickly in this very inflationally enviroment
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    Its starting to happen.REvolt!.France is just the beginning imo. People have had enough , the gap is getting wider in most countries, luckily the govt here is really dedicated to looking after all kiwis and is proactive unlike Macron who has been forced to back down for the first time. Will it save him, i doubt it.

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