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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    No mention of any but national MP's in the articles that i scanned.I'd be surprise if some members from the coalition are not pulled up besides whats her name, its all about power and power goes to some peoples heads.
    What about Trevor Mallard punching Tau Henare? I think Trevor is Labour. What about Mega Fightery? I think bullying happens on both sides in equal proportions. Not sure what you mean about Amy Adams?

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    Have listened to several radio NZ news items again and cant find a reference to Amy Adam so withdraw that.

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    Another step in the right direction re cannabis use for pain etc.
    Chronic pain sufferer: 'We've been shown no compassion at all'
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    Nats back in front in the polls( Just need a partner now ) , looks like ILG has done some damage .....

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...r-brunton-poll

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    Maybe it has temporarily,the petrol issue maybe too, and the strikes and wage increases which most of us know have to happen.

    Meanwhile the good work carries on ,new family laws are being quietly brought in.

    Significant milestone in victim safety
    "Three new family violence offences have been introduced: strangulation, coercion to marry, and assault on a person in a family relationship. These new offences criminalise behaviours .."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Maybe it has temporarily,the petrol issue maybe too, and the strikes and wage increases which most of us know have to happen.

    Meanwhile the good work carries on ,new family laws are being quietly brought in.
    Indeed. I see they've made it illegal to strangle someone. Another infringement on our liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Maybe it has temporarily,the petrol issue maybe too, and the strikes and wage increases which most of us know have to happen.

    Meanwhile the good work carries on ,new family laws are being quietly brought in.

    Significant milestone in victim safety
    "Three new family violence offences have been introduced: strangulation, coercion to marry, and assault on a person in a family relationship. These new offences criminalise behaviours .."
    Must be pretty desperate - criminalising actions under a different act which are already felonies won't improve anything. At worst they will further increase our prison population because there are now still more redundant laws around offering opportunities for false accusations and convictions.

    Labour had a chance to improve our so called "justice system". So many things broken. It is just about locking up somebody (remember: "somebody has to pay") and to train offenders and turn them into career criminals instead of helping them and reduce crime rates.

    Labour made big promises before they got elected and delivered nothing. Instead of reforming the justice system they generate still more offenders they are going to lock up. Talk about jumping as a tiger and landing as a bedside rug. Useful for nothing.
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    Wow thats pretty sad .Maybe you havn't actually read it. Strangulation is a very common way for one partner to control the other.And people still die later with no outward signs of injuries, their internal throat injuries swell up and block breathing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Wow thats pretty sad .Maybe you havn't actually read it. Strangulation is a very common way for one partner to control the other.And people still die later with no outward signs of injuries, their internal throat injuries swell up and block breathing.
    Sure - there are many ways to attack people, to injure them and to kill them. Does Labour intend to create a separate law to prohibit each of them?

    This does not help anybody but bureaucracy. It is simply not allowed to assault people and never was. Sure - there is always lowlife around who don't care about the law, but why do you think they will make a difference for the new law?

    Are you saying that the people who killed others so far by strangulation didn't know that this is not allowed? This is really sad. But in this case maybe some education might have gone a long way instead of just making another law the bad guys either ignore or perhaps don't know about.

    Labour are just clueless about how to improve our justice system - aren't they?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Wow thats pretty sad .Maybe you havn't actually read it. Strangulation is a very common way for one partner to control the other.And people still die later with no outward signs of injuries, their internal throat injuries swell up and block breathing.
    So how does having a law stop this?

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