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    Quote Originally Posted by justakiwi View Post
    Before I respond to that can I ask if you have children?
    That is irrelevant. The issue is: why should people be encouraged to breed with financial assistance from the tax payer. If you cant afford kids on the first six -12 months of their life how do you think you can afford them in their older years. Simple answer is you make sure you can afford them before beginning the breeding programme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justakiwi View Post
    Before I respond to that can I ask if you have children?
    I have 4 grandchildren and my daughter got no paid parental leave as she was only working part time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by couta1 View Post
    .... she was only working part time.
    Now there's a novel idea. Actually going out and earning for your child!

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    Quote Originally Posted by justakiwi View Post
    ..... From a motherís perspective, I would rather see a parent home with a newborn for 26 weeks than two parents home for only 13.....
    Well that's nice but not everyone thinks as you do. Would you want to force everyone to do what you think rather than what best suits their own circs? Why?

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    Just looked up the Stuff website. 3 headlines screaming at me:
    " Hey Labour, dads matter too"
    "Acting PM proves a trainwreck"
    "Does Labour have a debt problem"

    Not bad after 3 weeks on the job !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    Just looked up the Stuff website. 3 headlines screaming at me:
    " Hey Labour, dads matter too"
    "Acting PM proves a trainwreck"
    "Does Labour have a debt problem"

    Not bad after 3 weeks on the job !!
    Its hard to keep up

    "Why labour irks older kiwis"

    Seems the honeymoon is over already. And I'm not sure Winston the groom is even back in the House yet. A bit of cohabitation will see more interesting headlines

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    And now Helen Clarke is back running the country. Punch and Judy shows were thrown out years ago - now the Labour party are using all the old gear but the strings are worn out and we can expect some fun. WP will be Punch but who will shove their hand up the back of his shirt to operate him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by minimoke View Post
    Its hard to keep up

    "Why labour irks older kiwis"

    Seems the honeymoon is over already. And I'm not sure Winston the groom is even back in the House yet. A bit of cohabitation will see more interesting headlines
    The interesting headlines will be when Peter's fronts up as first to enter the Pike River mine , as he promised. Don't hold your breath for it though.

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    So a new agency will get $7.6 million per year until 2021 to assess re-entry into Pike River. PM says her pre election commitment to re-enter the mine is now her "absolute ambition". No wonder they are starting to call her "Cindy Astern" !
    And Winnie is strangely silent on his pre-election grandstanding saying he would lead the re-entry himself.

    $30 odd million for what ?
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    Finding a crime scene maybe and retrieving bodies is what its all about. The families are involved and if they can do it safely( a bottom line for the families as well) it will be done, Reassessment underway in a transparent way.Great stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Finding a crime scene maybe and retrieving bodies is what its all about. The families are involved and if they can do it safely( a bottom line for the families as well) it will be done, Reassessment underway in a transparent way.Great stuff.
    Sounds exactly like National were trying for a few years. Just shove Winston in the mine like he's so keen to do.

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    Re-entry? Wait, as we need to spent $7M plus first to assess what this Pike River re-entry promise is
    Even some die hard Labour supporters must be feeling some shame by now. Yippee-ki-yay, mother......!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    Sounds exactly like National were trying for a few years. Just shove Winston in the mine like he's so keen to do.
    I heard a better whisper than that. that he is being asked by USA to go to North Korea as a mediator

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    So a new agency will get $7.6 million per year until 2021 to assess re-entry into Pike River. PM says her pre election commitment to re-enter the mine is now her "absolute ambition". No wonder they are starting to call her "Cindy Astern" !
    And Winnie is strangely silent on his pre-election grandstanding saying he would lead the re-entry himself.

    $30 odd million for what ?
    I have no idea where this money is going to go. I can only assume its a Labour Trickle Down theory in play that will help see people out of poverty. Solid Energy has already done loads of work on this as have the families. The worse case risks are known; mitigation strategies are known. All that is needed is knowledge of current methane levels and then send people down the drift bit by bit to work it out.
    All this talk of "safety" drives me nuts. Its going to be a major handbrake preventing us from doing anything - and its a great scapegoat for allowing dishonest politicians a back door exit to sneak out of.

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