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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Immigration was one thing Labour couldn’t stop talking about pre-election

    Even though the numbers aren’t really going down and we are not too far off ‘peak immigration’ of 2016 not a word these days from Labour
    And Winnie even worse. After all this is his favourite election policies are anti immigration and anti FTAs. Yet both immigration and number of FTAs signed are always highest when he runs the Government

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    Wow, this transparent Government really is doing well. Just some of the headlines today:

    Winston blindsiding Andrew Little and his own Minister Tracy Martin on abortion law.

    Phil Twyford in the poo with yet another one of his portfolios, CAA this time where he has lied about receiving info last year about cultural problems in the organisation

    Barry Soper claiming allegations of rape and serious sexual misconduct inside Labour Party ignored by hierachy and not properly investigated, leading to an exodus from the party

    Ombudsman launching an investigation into a letter from Minister Genter to (yes you guessed it) Twyford that they deny to release.

    Media shine now wearing off the PM that is increasingly looking like she is way out of her depth and now avoiding media scrutiny, preferring Facebook feeds where she can control what is put out, like the Education Minister.

    And now with the economy gridning to a halt, will this motley lot last the term ?
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    Throw in Nationals fake news , abortion up to birth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Throw in Nationals fake news , abortion up to birth.
    Haven't seen anything in the legislation to prevent it. Little was disingenuous in the answer I saw him give on this, saying no, but basically just placing it back on the shoulders of the practitioners.

    Always amazed how the rights of one human being tread all over the rights of another on this issue. Abortion stops a beating heart. That's why it is in the Crimes Act.

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    Barry Soper on Labour's shameful behaviour https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12256255

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    Barry Soper on Labour's shameful behaviour https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12256255
    In a couple of words , she is sooooo flacky !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by whatsup View Post
    In a couple of words , she is sooooo flacky !!
    Maybe, but can you imagine that dismal lot without her charisma to front the party?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    Maybe, but can you imagine that dismal lot without her charisma to front the party?
    Ardern is the ultimate hypocrite. Campaigning on transparency and "wellbeing" and then turns a blind eye when things get difficult. I think her hypocracy on the transparency will be her undoing. Nothing worse than claiming the high moral ground while actively undermining it. It is cynical and despicable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonu View Post
    Ardern is the ultimate hypocrite. Campaigning on transparency and "wellbeing" and then turns a blind eye when things get difficult. I think her hypocracy on the transparency will be her undoing. Nothing worse than claiming the high moral ground while actively undermining it. It is cynical and despicable.
    Yeah but she has a BABY

    Looney Left is going run the train right off the track in this GFC2.0 that's coming down the line like a freight-train with nop brakes

    there is no IF and more just when its going hit .. last two weeks Negative bonds grew another 2 trillion from 12
    People don't have ideas, ideas have people

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    Bottom line imo is its always a womans right to choose and looks like an easy win here as it should be.
    Abortion reform has the numbers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Bottom line imo is its always a womans right to choose and looks like an easy win here as it should be.
    Abortion reform has the numbers
    Strange how abortion is supposedly OK, and yet everyone agrees there are too many. Supposedly OK but they struggle to get staff to do the slaughtering. Suppposedly OK and done on mental health grounds and yet many women are mentally scarred for life by the life they have lost.

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    Whose "everyone", churches i guess, religion hiding behind it as has been found in the euthanasia issue
    Slaughtering as in abattoirs , sensational , emotive stuff there.
    Mentally scarred? It should be a womans choice every time. .
    The vast majority of women who have an abortion do so very early way prior to the 20 week stage .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Whose "everyone", churches i guess, religion hiding behind it as has been found in the euthanasia issue
    Slaughtering as in abattoirs , sensational , emotive stuff there.
    Mentally scarred? It should be a womans choice every time. .
    The vast majority of women who have an abortion do so very early way prior to the 20 week stage .
    A human being's heart begins beating at six weeks. Slaughtering is accurate, uncomfortable perhaps for those who think it is fine and dandy. Would you like to see more abortions JT?

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    Absolutely support the womans choice. Relgion has a lot to answer to in things like Euthanasia and Womens rights, its callous and totally uncaring in these situs. Bible needs updating imo, compassion missing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Absolutely support the womans choice. Relgion has a lot to answer to in things like Euthanasia and Womens rights, its callous and totally uncaring in these situs. Bible needs updating imo, compassion missing.
    The Bible is the word of God. It's up to her to update it. Nobody else.

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