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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post

    Tourism Industry Aotearoa's chief executive Chris Roberts told the Herald the proposal as outlined pre-election, "is not actually implementable".

    "We can only find one border tax in the world where local passport holders and residents are excluded from paying it. And that is in Mexico, but Mexicans who fly out of Mexico have to pay and then seek reimbursement," Roberts said.

    "Unless they are going to set up booths at the airport to collect the tax, to put two different prices into all the airline systems around the world . . . that is a complication that they haven't thought through.

    "We are yet to see how it could be workable. It would essentially be coming up with a world first.""
    When so many of the local populace being permanent residents and dual nationals then you can only describe this is as a government bureaucrat job scheme. I can't imagine Sabre or Amadeus going to do a mountain of development to register a separate identity document for travel to allow passengers would are NZ nationals or those with residency visas to pay a different fare, let alone a aggregator like TriVago or Expedia to change their interface to facilitate exemptions in airfares.

    I can't see booths at arrivals and departures with passengers queuing up to show they paid the $25 levy, then processing their ID documents and handing out $25 in cash, credit card refunds or international bank transfers being part of a seamless visitor experience or streamlining the chaos at Auckland Airport when a bunch of inbound aircraft arrive at peak times - I can only assume that they will have to exempt Australians because they don't give them a residency visa or alternatively we'll all be queuing up to pay $25 entry arriving in Australia as kiwis in a tit-for-tat with the Turnbull Government.

    The alternative is paper or online forms, scanned documents and refund processing and another wing of Internal Affairs.... or they say exemptions are too hard and we all get paddled an Sir Apirana Ngata everytime we head to Australia - $25 for NZ and $25 for Oz because anything we do to Australian citizens will be matched here and the NZ Labour led Government and the Australian Government are getting along so well.

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    Hmmm - thinking hat time. I wonder what I can go and study next year with my new free fees Special Tax Dividend.

    Edit. I like the sound of this: Diploma in Professional Scuba Instruction at DiveHQ.

    Or maybe a bit of surfing. I can do Surf and Beach Education at Ara where I get to learn surfing technique

    Theres also a Diploma In Skydiving - that could be "educational"

    Theres also a NZSFW Certificate in Cocktail and Mixology
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    Quote Originally Posted by minimoke View Post
    Hmmm - thinking hat time. I wonder what I can go and study next year with my new free fees Special Tax Dividend.

    Edit. I like the sound of this: Diploma in Professional Scuba Instruction at DiveHQ.

    Or maybe a bit of surfing. I can do Surf and Beach Education at Ara where I get to learn surfing technique

    Theres also a Diploma In Skydiving - that could be "educational"

    Theres also a NZSFW Certificate in Cocktail and Mixology
    I'd go for the mixology. Sounds likev a great career move. I've never heard of an unemployed mixologist.

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    So Cindy Astern is now looking for a CEO for a new agency to assess re-entry into Pike River Mine. He/she could be liable for several millions of dollars in fines or jail time if something goes wrong. I think this is a perfect job for Little himself or Peters, to show how brave (or stupid) they really are.

    " From Stuff:
    " However, the briefing documents show the way the agency would run, and while Little would be in charge of overseeing the agency and make the final call on re-entry, the chief executive of the agency would be liable for any decisions."
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    Quote Originally Posted by minimoke View Post
    Hmmm - thinking hat time. I wonder what I can go and study next year with my new free fees Special Tax Dividend.

    Edit. I like the sound of this: Diploma in Professional Scuba Instruction at DiveHQ.

    Or maybe a bit of surfing. I can do Surf and Beach Education at Ara where I get to learn surfing technique

    Theres also a Diploma In Skydiving - that could be "educational"

    Theres also a NZSFW Certificate in Cocktail and Mixology
    These sound great! I've got nothing better to do. I love cocktails, and throwing myself off things afterwards...

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    So Cindy Astern is now looking for a CEO for a new agency to assess re-entry into Pike River Mine. He/she could be liable for several millions of dollars in fines or jail time if something goes wrong. I think this is a perfect job for Little himself or Peters, to show how brave (or stupid) they really are.

    " From Stuff:
    " However, the briefing documents show the way the agency would run, and while Little would be in charge of overseeing the agency and make the final call on re-entry, the chief executive of the agency would be liable for any decisions."
    This whole talk of Liability is a total red herring. Of course Little was never going to be responsible. A minister wouldn't be, never has been and there is nothing in the law that allows for it.

    As for the CEO. He/she will be fine. All he/she has to do is apply the same care, skill and diligence that a reasonable person would do in the same circumstances taking into account it is a mine / tunnel reentry. Do those things and kill a few people and there will be no "guilty" verdict if charged. Of curse no-one will be killed and it is extremely unlikely anyone will die.

    I wouldn't mind Little heading down there since this was a mine that according to him had excellent safety standards. As for Peter he volunteered so I have no problems with him leading the charge

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    Jian Yang was the Chinese influencer in the National Government. So much influencing going on that the general public should be concerned. Enough material to Labour to stir this up as an election issue but they were strangely very quiet on the issue

    Now that the Chinese influencing role has passed to Labour MP Raymond Huo no doubt the ‘influencing’ will go on.

    Wonder why the President of the Labour Party attended a recent Chinese Communist Party Congress?

    Professor Brady has a brilliant paper Magic Weapons: Chins’s political influence activities under Xi Jinping
    https://www.wilsoncenter.org/sites/d...tember2017.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by greater fool View Post
    Professor Anne-Marie Brady
    Global Fellow, Wilson Center, Washington, DC

    A completely unbiased report from someone deeply embedded in the evil empire propaganda service.


    University of Canterbury since 2001
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    Quote Originally Posted by greater fool View Post
    I'll see you, and raise with this free, to first year students, higher qualification:

    http://foodandwine.co.nz/wine/certif...dge-sommelier/
    Nice find - though it doesn't say whether learning materials are included in the tuition fees ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by greater fool View Post
    Yes it does. Halfway down in orange sidebar:

    "Fees include WSET® examination fees, textbooks, wine tastings, day trips and guest lectures."

    I'm signing up tomorrow.
    Yippeah! One must love this government - great to hear that Jacinda invited us to drink for free - mighty nice of her.

    But wait - who is going to pay when the music stops?
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    Quote Originally Posted by greater fool View Post
    I'll see you, and raise with this free, to first year students, higher qualification:

    http://foodandwine.co.nz/wine/certif...dge-sommelier/
    Thats excellent - its only 12 weeks and I get a year free. Time for my Mixolgy course as well!

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Jian Yang was the Chinese influencer in the National Government. So much influencing going on that the general public should be concerned. Enough material to Labour to stir this up as an election issue but they were strangely very quiet on the issue

    Now that the Chinese influencing role has passed to Labour MP Raymond Huo no doubt the ‘influencing’ will go on.

    Wonder why the President of the Labour Party attended a recent Chinese Communist Party Congress?

    Professor Brady has a brilliant paper Magic Weapons: Chins’s political influence activities under Xi Jinping
    https://www.wilsoncenter.org/sites/d...tember2017.pdf
    BEIJING, Oct. 21 (Xinhua) -- The ongoing 19th Communist Party of China (CPC) National Congress has received good wishes from foreign leaders, political parties and organizations around the world.

    The messages speak highly of the CPC's leadership as well as China's socio-economic development and global contributions, and express full confidence that the CPC will lead China to even greater prosperity.

    The following is an edited version of some of these messages.

    Peter Goodfellow, president of the New Zealand National Party

    The 19th CPC National Congress will be of great significance to China's socio-economic development in the next five years and beyond. New Zealand welcomes China's Belt and Road Initiative and looks forward to extensive and in-depth cooperation with China under the initiative.

    Along with the Blue Dragons National was there first. I wonder why ?
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    Hey EZ - what’s up with this secret 30 odd page paper that Labour are refusing to release even though they and Winston said they would. You know the one about directives to new ministers post coalition agreement.

    Also Grant Robertson seems to be doing sneaky things out of the public eye (ie no consultation) in the review of the Reserve Bank Act.

    I thought you (and Joshua) were all for the greater transparency that Jacinda and her government were going to bring.

    Not looking like it’s happening

    Probably now in power they start acting just like the last lot
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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post

    Probably now in power they start acting just like the last lot
    Unfortunately they won't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Hey EZ - what’s up with this secret 30 odd page paper that Labour are refusing to release even though they and Winston said they would. You know the one about directives to new ministers post coalition agreement.

    Also Grant Robertson seems to be doing sneaky things out of the public eye (ie no consultation) in the review of the Reserve Bank Act.

    I thought you (and Joshua) were all for the greater transparency that Jacinda and her government were going to bring.

    Not looking like it’s happening

    Probably now in power they start acting just like the last lot
    When you have an opposition who considers you the enemy to be attacked and taken down at ANY opp one has to be prudent. When you have an opposition who dont want to be reasonable as in my previous example but will take any cheap shot they can regardless of whats good for NZ , one needs to be prudent. National will be given opps to collaborate despite this behaviour. Will they change their spots; i dont think so, consigning themselves to stay where they are for a few terms yet imo.An irrelevant stagnant backwater.

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