Labour / NZ First Government

[iceman]

Which specific buildings aren't able to be worked in at the moment?

I agree with dobby41 that National let themselves down with underfunding of both school and hospital buildings. My local hospital in Nelson has parts of it not fit for puspose right now.

[dobby41]

Rather be in Taiwan or Thailand, or WA, NSW or Queensland.

As previous highlights get worse you get more specific.
It used to be that we should follow Australia (and others), now down to particular states.
The reasons for different outcomes for the same approach are not well understood so there is nothing that says if we follow X we will get the same outcome.

[Balance]

As previous highlights get worse you get more specific.
It used to be that we should follow Australia (and others), now down to particular states.
The reasons for different outcomes for the same approach are not well understood so there is nothing that says if we follow X we will get the same outcome.

Yes indeed - I believe and the facts still support my view that Australia did a better job with the initial lockdown than NZ (measured rather than the total 'scorched earth' lockdown like in NZ).

Where Victoria has gone wrong is well documented : It's the unfathomable failure of their post lockdown quarantine system. Nothing to do with the initial lockdown.

“ ..... the start of this second wave has been linked to a failure in hotel quarantine practices, with travellers returning from overseas allowed to flout the rules, go home early and leave for food breaks.

Security guards have also been accused of socialising with people in hotel quarantine, and some of having sex with people in isolation.

Those issues are now the subject of an inquiry.“

[Balance]

Yes indeed - I believe and the facts still support my view that Australia did a better job with the initial lockdown than NZ (measured rather than the total 'scorched earth' lockdown like in NZ).

Where Victoria has gone wrong is well documented : It's the unfathomable failure of their post lockdown quarantine system. Nothing to do with the initial lockdown.

“ ..... the start of this second wave has been linked to a failure in hotel quarantine practices, with travellers returning from overseas allowed to flout the rules, go home early and leave for food breaks.

Security guards have also been accused of socialising with people in hotel quarantine, and some of having sex with people in isolation.

Those issues are now the subject of an inquiry.“

And there but for the grace of God or Goodness or whatsoever anyone chooses to believe, we would have followed but for the fact that the breakdown in our quarantine system was arrested - no thanks to Comrade Cindy & her team of incompetents.

[dobby41]

Yes indeed - I believe and the facts still support my view that Australia did a better job with the initial lockdown than NZ (measured rather than the total 'scorched earth' lockdown like in NZ).

I'm sure you do believe but the facts???

[dobby41]

And there but for the grace of God or Goodness or whatsoever anyone chooses to believe, we would have followed but for the fact that the breakdown in our quarantine system was arrested - no thanks to Comrade Cindy & her team of incompetents.

The issues were arrested thanks to the Govt - National may have highlighted it (along with a non-existant homeless man) but the Govt fixed it.

And now we get National trying to break things by leaking information they had no right to leak. They lose a lot of points for that.
We'll see if the hypocrite Muller sacks Walker rather than just removing some portfolios (which does nothing really).

[Balance]

The issues were arrested thanks to the Govt - National may have highlighted it (along with a non-existant homeless man) but the Govt fixed it.

And now we get National trying to break things by leaking information they had no right to leak. They lose a lot of points for that.
We'll see if the hypocrite Muller sacks Walker rather than just removing some portfolios (which does nothing really).

You are always going to get rogue & incompetent elements in any party.

And you are right, it’s a question of how it is dealt with.

You would agree that David Clark should have never been allowed to stay as long in his job as he did.

We await.

[dobby41]

You would agree that David Clark should have never been allowed to stay as long in his job as he did.

We await.

Yes I do - I thought he'd be gone come level 1 (and I'm pretty I said this last week).
I could understand (just) keeping him on while covid was dealt to (to not disrupt things) but past that was a surprise.

[tim23]

I don't have enough knowledge of Victoria to compare.

And if there is no vaccine? What then?

Read and/or listen to the news - its pretty simple!

[Balance]

You are always going to get rogue & incompetent elements in any party.

And you are right, it’s a question of how it is dealt with.

You would agree that David Clark should have never been allowed to stay as long in his job as he did.

We await.

Walker gone.