Labour / NZ First Government

[westerly]

In spite of successive governments saying we must improve our productivity to make NZ a better country little has changed

Our country’s productivity is deplorable and the current government seems he’ll bent in under mining business.

Obviously all to hard to talk about and address because ‘productivity’ wont’ be mentioned much in tomorrow’s budget

They cannot be measuring right wing Sharetrader posts

westerly

[minimoke]

The finance minister is minister in charge of treasury. It's traditional, although a complete charade, to offer resignation to PM when dept cocks-up, which is then declined. Personally I find this sort of playacting such absurd nonsense that I hope he does nothing, and it will all be forgotten in a fortnight anyway.

Sticking budget stuff on a sever open to the public is a stuff up.

But then Treasury going out and saying ""Following this morning's media reports of a potential leak of Budget information, the Treasury has gathered sufficient evidence to indicate that its systems have been deliberately and systematically hacked," is so much more of a stuff up. Its an attempt to push the blame elsewhere.

For the Minister then go onto to say :""We have contacted the National Party to request that they do not release any further material, given that the Treasury said it has sufficient evidence that indicates the material is a result of a systematic hack and is now subject to a police investigation." is concerning. It is Nationals job to act in Opposition - and they were doing just that.

Its hardly Nationals fault that the government has ministries with incompetent people in it.

[iceman]

I thought Winston's response was absurd, but then he didn't usually make much sense anyway. He should go but that could apply to any time in the past 20 years or more.

Grant's response seemed measured and sensible given the information that he had at the time, but I can't find a quote so could be wrong.

I'd see more benefit in Grant offering to resign if this was obviously a new issue. I expect this has probably affected the last few budgets. And there are probably many other government web sites with equally serious issues. Not because this government is incompetent but because IT is hard.

I agree Winston has once again told a straight out lie saying he knew (as it was his job to know) what had happened and it was illegal on the part of the National Party. If he had any sense of respect for the job he holds, he would resign. But we know he doesn't and he won't and yet again the media just ignores him and let him get away with it. This senior politician seems to get away with just straight out BS and made up stories again and again without any foundation.

[winner69]

Radio NZ says - A status quo Budget when transformation was promised

Prob had to be expected

[minimoke]

Labout haven't learnt. Paid $690m for a trainset worth $369m. Now they are going to biff another $billion at it. Sad for the homeless and ill.

[elZorro]

I agree Winston has once again told a straight out lie saying he knew (as it was his job to know) what had happened and it was illegal on the part of the National Party. If he had any sense of respect for the job he holds, he would resign. But we know he doesn't and he won't and yet again the media just ignores him and let him get away with it. This senior politician seems to get away with just straight out BS and made up stories again and again without any foundation.

Yes, but he's not the PM, anyway JK got away with it for long enough.

[elZorro]

Sticking budget stuff on a sever open to the public is a stuff up.

But then Treasury going out and saying ""Following this morning's media reports of a potential leak of Budget information, the Treasury has gathered sufficient evidence to indicate that its systems have been deliberately and systematically hacked," is so much more of a stuff up. Its an attempt to push the blame elsewhere.

For the Minister then go onto to say :""We have contacted the National Party to request that they do not release any further material, given that the Treasury said it has sufficient evidence that indicates the material is a result of a systematic hack and is now subject to a police investigation." is concerning. It is Nationals job to act in Opposition - and they were doing just that.

Its hardly Nationals fault that the government has ministries with incompetent people in it.

Bit of a shame that after getting some embargoed data showing up on the website, National didn't call Treasury and let them know. Instead they were trying so hard to get all the details together (2000 requests in just 48 hours so allowing for sleep, about 83 searches per hour were needed) just so they could break some small details on the budget and make a pathetic point. They're thinking like adolescents.

[elZorro]

Labour haven't learnt. Paid $690m for a trainset worth $369m. Now they are going to biff another $billion at it. Sad for the homeless and ill.

And if National hadn't closed the railway workshop in Dunedin, most of that new money could have stayed in NZ. Maybe a lot of it can stay, if they think about it. Have you done any maths on the cost of road damage and delays through NZ if we don't keep truck/freight road traffic down? Thought not.

[Baa_Baa]

It's a very clever budget one year out from an election, it will profoundly talk to the constituent base, "over the next four years we will give you ... " i.e. this term and the next. Until National have a coherent likeable leader and policies that resonate with more voters than the current coalition combined (because National is time warped into a first past the poll mentality), the Labour coalition have a stranglehold on the next term.

[fungus pudding]

And if National hadn't closed the railway workshop in Dunedin, most of that new money could have stayed in NZ. Maybe a lot of it can stay, if they think about it. Have you done any maths on the cost of road damage and delays through NZ if we don't keep truck/freight road traffic down? Thought not.

Have you ever seen the Hillside railway workshops that were closed? Thought not.