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    Quote Originally Posted by jonu View Post
    Careful what you wish for FP. With the current lot you just might get it.

    Careful with your reading material jonu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Apparently this law would allow late term and sex selection abortion. Still clapping JT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonu View Post
    And what would you replace it with Balance? The Labour Party manifesto? Mein Kampf? Like it or not Western Society is based upon it. Do away with it at society's peril. Nietzsche grasped this with his "God is dead" statement. He was asking the rhetorical question of what do you replace Him with? Trust me, there are plenty already lining up.
    Stating the obvious, jonu.

    Western society is struggling to come to terms with the hypocrisy of Christianity - that's my point.

    As for replacing it, there's the Koran and Tripitaka to replace the Bible for starters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Stating the obvious, jonu.

    Western society is struggling to come to terms with the hypocrisy of Christianity - that's my point.

    As for replacing it, there's the Koran and Tripitaka to replace the Bible for starters.
    The hypocrisy is in some of the followers perhaps, not the teachings themselves. There are already societies anchored on the Qaran. Not sure I would want to be part of one of those, even less so some of the tried and failed experiments of the 20thC

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonu View Post
    The hypocrisy is in some of the followers perhaps, not the teachings themselves. There are already societies anchored on the Qaran. Not sure I would want to be part of one of those, even less so some of the tried and failed experiments of the 20thC
    Not the followers but God's anointed leader and representatives on Earth - the Pope, Bishops, priests, nuns etc!

    Anyway, all religions preach good - the evil in them comes from those who use religion to abuse and control.

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    For there to be Good, there must be not Good. Otherwise all would be Good and there could be no reference point. One of the basic arguments for the existence of God. Anyway...we digress along way from Cindy and her wayward gummint...who certainly are not good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonu View Post
    For there to be Good, there must be not Good. Otherwise all would be Good and there could be no reference point. One of the basic arguments for the existence of God. Anyway...we digress along way from Cindy and her wayward gummint...who certainly are not good.
    That's hardly an argument for the existence of a god. There's far more evidence for no god, than there is for god.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    That's hardly an argument for the existence of a god. There's far more evidence for no god, than there is for god.
    Hesitant to go down this rabbit hole...but what the hell. There is absolutely zero evidence that there is no God

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonu View Post
    Hesitant to go down this rabbit hole...but what the hell. There is absolutely zero evidence that there is no God
    Yes. Rabbit holes are good brain fodder. While philosophically it is impossible to prove a negative, it must surely be accepted that the fact that thousands of god fans, over thousands of years, have never been able to prove any type of god exists, gives a pretty good indication. So like the abominable snowman and the Loch Ness monster, it's a fairly safe bet that the reason he hasn't fronted up or made the odd TV appearance is because he's simply a mythical creature - or at best he, she, or it certainly doesn't want to be worshipped. And if he, she or it did exist and sought worship, he, she or it would pop up regularly to blow the opposition away. There are more than 2000 gods competing for the title - to be the one true deity - the real deal.

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    Andrew Little and other Ministers in this Government now want to relax the new safety regulations as they realise the risk to enter Pike River is too risky to fall within the rules. Little was the union boss who repeatedly said PRC was a safe and well run mine, before 29 of his members were killed. His moral compass is missing https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12263140
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    Andrew Little is a great example of the problems Labour had in pulling together a Cabinet from such a shallow talent pool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonu View Post
    Andrew Little is a great example of the problems Labour had in pulling together a Cabinet from such a shallow talent pool.

    Andrew Little is yet another great example of the problems Labour had in pulling together a Cabinet from such a shallow talent pool.

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    I think this is one of the best decisions this Government has made. I hope it works out well https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12263774

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    I think this is one of the best decisions this Government has made. I hope it works out well https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12263774
    It is likely to improve the situation and make it fairer. Question is however - why don't we do this for sufferers of of other diseases as well? The problem are the district health boards which all need to reinvent the wheel for any issue and which are mainly governed by an incompetent bunch of volunteers (some armed with lots of faith and goodwill and many with a hidden agenda) without any effective control (thanks to the ridiculous election system).

    NZ does not need twenty independent district health boards which all need to put their limited resources into duplicating governance and management tasks instead of directing them towards the patients needs. We do need one properly resourced and competent authority responsible to the government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    I think this is one of the best decisions this Government has made. I hope it works out well https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12263774
    So Labour can count on your vote in 2020 Iceman? They are trying hard in many areas.

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