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    Unusually Helen Clark was not decisive when the issue about the Spencer Trust came up but she eventually fired Peters. Some say this hesitation from her and the resulting tainting of the whole of Government, contributed significantly to her losing the following election. I suspect this may be the final nail in the coffin for Jacinda. She is the PM and needs to make decisions. Her Deputy PM is once again under serious allegations of misappropriation of funds. This is becoming a habit of his. Nobody needs to tell me that Winston did not know exactly he was entitled to in pension payments but continued to accept overpayments until the media found out. Says it all really.

    I wonder who he will take to court for the latest leak, or rather truth coming out.

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    Power is intoxicating, Iceman - those who are without principles will do and tolerate anything and anybody to keep it.

    Sleeping with a stinking skunk is pleasurable to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    Unusually Helen Clark was not decisive when the issue about the Spencer Trust came up but she eventually fired Peters. Some say this hesitation from her and the resulting tainting of the whole of Government, contributed significantly to her losing the following election. I suspect this may be the final nail in the coffin for Jacinda. She is the PM and needs to make decisions. Her Deputy PM is once again under serious allegations of misappropriation of funds. This is becoming a habit of his. Nobody needs to tell me that Winston did not know exactly he was entitled to in pension payments but continued to accept overpayments until the media found out. Says it all really.

    I wonder who he will take to court for the latest leak, or rather truth coming out.
    Some serious leaks from the unhappy at NZF!

    Oh dear - drip drip drip - Winnie & the grubby one obviously have no idea that Stuff has heaps more information to tie NZF to the Foundation.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...rst-foundation

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...ampaign-engine

    "But Stuff reveals that Tauranga-based list MP Clayton Mitchell acted as one of the bagmen for the foundation – which appears to have operated as a political slush fund – financing NZ First's party operations."

    "The revelation that Mitchell was one of the bagmen for the NZ First Foundation could derail Peters' assertion that the party and foundation, which received more than $500,000 worth of donations, are not connected."

    The more denials, the deeper the hole!
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    It looks like Wellington has to join Washington, Westminster - and Buckingham Palace - in draining the SWAMP.
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    With the revelations coming out from Stuff and no doubt much more to come, it is hard to see how Winnie and NZF will come back from this. Obviously lots of annoyed people internally and now many donors will be really pissed off. Hopefully we are seeing the end of Winnie and his crony Shane Jones as a political force in NZ

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    "I look after the political wing of the NZ First party, that's an administrative matter," Peters said in Parliament on Tuesday.

    "I'm in charge of the political body of NZ First. As for the administrative body....".
    Peters might need to use the slush fund to buy some more buses in preparation for all the people hes going to throw under them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    With the revelations coming out from Stuff and no doubt much more to come, it is hard to see how Winnie and NZF will come back from this. Obviously lots of annoyed people internally and now many donors will be really pissed off. Hopefully we are seeing the end of Winnie and his crony Shane Jones as a political force in NZ
    Winnie has proven himself a master weasel by wriggling out of similar situations over the years. Maybe he's overdone it this time, but I wouldn't bet on it. I went to one of his campaign meetings once, he spoke nonsense; certainly nothing constructive. I couldn't believe how he had all the old ducks eating out of his hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    With the revelations coming out from Stuff and no doubt much more to come, it is hard to see how Winnie and NZF will come back from this. Obviously lots of annoyed people internally and now many donors will be really pissed off. Hopefully we are seeing the end of Winnie and his crony Shane Jones as a political force in NZ
    Jeeze Iceman....we need to get the Port decision through first !

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    And the end of national as we know it, Thank Dog.An opportunity for them to bring back some ethics and a moral compass even. Cmon serious fraud office have some balls will ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RTM View Post
    Jeeze Iceman....we need to get the Port decision through first !
    Have no fear - that's in the bag imo.

    The grubby one basically kowtow to everything that Winnie wants - she is good like that.

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    Whats a safe address ,ive got a 6 pack of soap to send Its so ingrained thats why 6. Some pumice too for those extra grubby spots.

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    Yeah. Is the PM really hopeless when it comes to WP? What's in their conniving document that even she cannot question or ask about this NZF slush fund?

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    Hows your slush fund , secret spending going?. Who's responsible for that ,​YOU. Unbelievable.!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RGR367 View Post
    Yeah. Is the PM really hopeless when it comes to WP? What's in their conniving document that even she cannot question or ask about this NZF slush fund?
    Not only that, but she is resorting to telling bare faced lies to try and cover up for him!

    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-...nz-first-drama

    "Her claim that she and the leader of New Zealand First did not do joint stand-up press conferences was exposed as bogus thanks to 1 NEWS taking the trouble to look through its library files of film clips. It turned out that there was no shortage of examples of Ardern and Peters alongside one another responding to questions posed by journalists. Ardern was relying on nobody bothering to check the veracity of what she had said.

    She was caught out. It is not the first time she has deliberately distorted the truth in such fashion in confident expectation that she would get away with such deception."

    She still thinks that there's enough star dust in her hair to blind everyone from the truth when she is telling lies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Not only that, but she is resorting to telling bare faced lies to try and cover up for him!

    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-...nz-first-drama

    "Her claim that she and the leader of New Zealand First did not do joint stand-up press conferences was exposed as bogus thanks to 1 NEWS taking the trouble to look through its library files of film clips. It turned out that there was no shortage of examples of Ardern and Peters alongside one another responding to questions posed by journalists. Ardern was relying on nobody bothering to check the veracity of what she had said.

    She was caught out. It is not the first time she has deliberately distorted the truth in such fashion in confident expectation that she would get away with such deception."

    She still thinks that there's enough star dust in her hair to blind everyone from the truth when she is telling lies?
    The inevitable bust-up might be coming very soon.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...winston-peters

    But probably Adern will pick up most NZ1st voters at the next election. Not that they deserve to - but don't underestimate the power of Adern's charisma.

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