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    Lol.the country and economy is travelling well with low unemployment, high commodity prices and wage growth. Business sentiment is improving . Grant Robertson has been prudent and careful with spending, the books are looking fantastic,so much so that the govt can start some big spending on NZ increasing up to 25%. Most countries are @ 50% or more. Undisputable facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Lol.the country and economy is travelling well with low unemployment, high commodity prices and wage growth. Business sentiment is improving . Grant Robertson has been prudent and careful with spending, the books are looking fantastic,so much so that the govt can start some big spending on NZ increasing up to 25%. Most countries are @ 50% or more. Undisputable facts.
    Take off the blinkers - and lets not just talk about the areas where even you must have noticed that Labour policies like Kiwi build (how many houses did they promise?), Justice reform (they jumped as tiger and landed as bed rug), healthcare (less care but exploding costs) or education (quality reduction and cost blow out) are a total disaster.

    Jacinda talked during the campaign a lot about child poverty in New Zealand ... and how Labour would make things better for poor children.

    More than 2 years down the track - and while there might be now a handful more taxpayer funded and overpaid debating clubs without any clue - absolutely nothing has changed for the children:

    The Ardern government has failed to reduce child poverty in New Zealand, the children’s commissioner says, despite the prime minister’s pledge to make the country the best place in the world to be a child.

    The children’s commissioner, Andrew Becroft, released the annual child poverty monitor on Monday which has found 148,000 children live in homes experiencing material hardship in six or more areas, including lack of access to basics such as warm clothing, health care and food. The figures are unchanged since the first report into child poverty in 2012.
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...in-new-zealand

    Unfortunately it is not enough to wish that things get better for everybody ... a government needs also to have the competence to achieve its promises. This is the part where Labour is severely lacking. Nice wishes, lots of talk - but nothing to show for.
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    Don’t forget the fuel price increases courtesy of tax increases? From a government which pledged no new taxes or increased taxes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Just a few things this govt has done so far ,getting on with it reviewing, exposing, fixing doing.

    Extended Paid parental leave

    Set standards for rental homes to ensure they are warm and dry

    Winter energy payments for a million people

    384,000 families get an average $75 a week extra

    Launched Mana in Mahi , will help 1000's of young people into apprenticeships etc

    Banned overseas speculators from buying houses in NZ

    Cheaper doctors visits for 500,000 plus children and community service card holders

    Increased funding for up to 1700 schools so parents dont have to donate it.

    Largest ever frontline investment in mental health.

    Trained over 1500 more police recruits

    92000 jobs since this govt formed, unemployment lowest in 11 years, hence increased tax take

    Resumed contributions to govt super fund

    Stopped nationals state house selloff.

    Increased min wage to $17.70 giving 209,000 people away rise. More to come.

    Fantastic surplus budget to use when the going gets tough, Global meltdown) very prudent.

    Ban of military style weapons

    The Christchurch call bringing global platforms onboard!

    149 million trees have been planted , so far.

    etcetcetc

    2,206 new state homes added better than none!!

    Facts are better then fables. Find the truth and the truth will set you free.
    Lots of firepower coming, many $billions of spend as our finance Minister has steered a prudent cautious ship to do more of the above. A safe caring govt making a good caring fist of it this term.lots more to follow.
    Sorry but the facts are getting in the way of spin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Facts are better then fables. Find the truth and the truth will set you free.
    Lots of firepower coming, many $billions of spend as our finance Minister has steered a prudent cautious ship to do more of the above. A safe caring govt making a good caring fist of it this term.lots more to follow.
    Sorry but the facts are getting in the way of spin.
    Go through the 'facts' one by one and the star dust turns into bull dust fairly quickly.

    Examples :

    1. Trained over 1500 more police recruits - Labour's promise was to boost police numbers by 1800 over 3 years. Guess how many Bull Dust Labour added?

    2. 149 million trees have been planted , so far - what happened to the billion trees program? And how many of those 149m trees were going to be planted anyway by the foresters (careful before you answer)?

    Bull dust is bull dust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Facts are better then fables. Find the truth and the truth will set you free.
    Lots of firepower coming, many $billions of spend as our finance Minister has steered a prudent cautious ship to do more of the above. A safe caring govt making a good caring fist of it this term.lots more to follow.
    Sorry but the facts are getting in the way of spin.
    Sure - slightly reducing the free float of uncontrolled deadly weapons in NZ was a sensible move, but otherwise?

    Most of the things you have listed are election lollies - cheap for the government and dear for the taxpayer. Typical Labor - throwing tax payer money at beneficiaries or increasing the cost of work for the people who provide real jobs. Any government without a brain can do that ... spending somebody else's money .... until reality bites back.

    Funny thing is that despite wasting many millions of tax payer money (just re-read your list) they achieved nothing - zero - zilch.

    Child poverty is as bad as it used to be, which proves my point. Anybody can throw money at problems, even Labor. However - this unfortunately does not solve problems.

    Don't tell us about Labour throwing our money away. Again - any idiot can do that.

    Tell us about one big problem NZ had which Labour has solved.
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    A third of Mana in Mahi entrants withdraw before completion. Not very many in the programme so far, but if that drop out rate continues the funding rate per participant might get close to the $400+ for full time PGF jobs.

    The big problem with big announcements is that questions get asked.

    Don't even get me started on Kiwibuild.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPeter View Post
    Sure - slightly reducing the free float of uncontrolled deadly weapons in NZ was a sensible move, but otherwise?

    Most of the things you have listed are election lollies - cheap for the government and dear for the taxpayer. Typical Labor - throwing tax payer money at beneficiaries or increasing the cost of work for the people who provide real jobs. Any government without a brain can do that ... spending somebody else's money .... until reality bites back.

    Funny thing is that despite wasting many millions of tax payer money (just re-read your list) they achieved nothing - zero - zilch.

    Child poverty is as bad as it used to be, which proves my point. Anybody can throw money at problems, even Labor. However - this unfortunately does not solve problems.

    Don't tell us about Labour throwing our money away. Again - any idiot can do that.

    Tell us about one big problem NZ had which Labour has solved.
    Labour is practicing the worse kind of socialism this country has ever seen yet - if you are hard working self employed or an employer, you can expect to get taxed more and carry more costs so Labour can spend spend spend on its fan base - the ones who think everyone else owes them a freaking living.

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    Yeah . Dont try try and try again. What a selfish rotten bunch we have above, wanting to keep the status quo. this govt is improving the life of many .How about you start making donations yourselves. Greedy is the word that comes to mind. Its a happening and you wont stop it. Climb on board this train and contribute to a better NZ or stay behind and be unproductive irrelevant knockers, the choice is yours.

    Acknowledge or be blind.

    Originally Posted by JoshuatreeJust a few things this govt has done so far ,getting on with it reviewing, exposing, fixing ,doing.



    Extended Paid parental leave

    Set standards for rental homes to ensure they are warm and dry

    Winter energy payments for a million people

    384,000 families get an average $75 a week extra

    Launched Mana in Mahi , will help 1000's of young people into apprenticeships etc

    Banned overseas speculators from buying houses in NZ

    Cheaper doctors visits for 500,000 plus children and community service card holders

    Increased funding for up to 1700 schools so parents dont have to donate it.

    Largest ever frontline investment in mental health.

    Trained over 1500 more police recruits

    92000 jobs since this govt formed, unemployment lowest in 11 years, hence increased tax take

    Resumed contributions to govt super fund

    Stopped nationals state house selloff.

    Increased min wage to $17.70 giving 209,000 people away rise. More to come.

    Fantastic surplus budget to use when the going gets tough, Global meltdown) very prudent.

    Ban of military style weapons

    The Christchurch call bringing global platforms onboard!

    149 million trees have been planted , so far.

    etcetcetc

    2,206 new state homes added better than none!

    How we'll plant one billion trees | Forestry NZ | NZ Governmenthttps://www.mpi.govt.nz › forestry › about-the-one-billion-trees-programme
    Last edited by Joshuatree; 10-12-2019 at 06:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Yeah . Dont try try and try again. What a selfish rotten bunch we have above, wanting to keep the status quo. this govt is improving the life of many .
    Star dust to bull dust.

    That’s what this government is about and no amount of bull dust is going to change that fact.

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