Labour / NZ First Government

[justakiwi]

Would have thought that was obvious. Supermarkets are essential. Dairies are small and can easily manage customers on a one in one out basis. All other department type stores such as The Warehouse, Mitre 10, Briscoes, Farmers etc, are not fully essential stores. It would also be a nightmare to manage them as we currently are managing entry to supermarkets. Any essential items one needs from those stores can now be purchased online and delivered to your door ie: contactless. If you seriously think we are at the point where we can safely open up all those stores, you are dreaming.

I read his comments as suggesting that the lockdown need not be the ‘strictest’ in the world.

If supermarkets & dairies can be opened, why couldn’t hardware stores like Mitre 10, general merchandise stores like Warehouse and Briscoe and appliances stores like Harvey Norman be opened?

[Balance]

Would have thought that was obvious. Supermarkets are essential. Dairies are small and can easily manage customers on a one in one out basis. All other department type stores such as The Warehouse, Mitre 10, Briscoes, Farmers etc, are not fully essential stores. It would also be a nightmare to manage them as we currently are managing entry to supermarkets. Any essential items one needs from those stores can now be purchased online and delivered to your door ie: contactless. If you seriously think we are at the point where we can safely open up all those stores, you are dreaming.

Australia has those sort of places open and guess what?

Their infection numbers are as good as NZ.

Are Kiwis really so hopeless compared to the Ozzies that we cannot be trusted to operate these stores safely?

[jonu]

Would have thought that was obvious. Supermarkets are essential. Dairies are small and can easily manage customers on a one in one out basis. All other department type stores such as The Warehouse, Mitre 10, Briscoes, Farmers etc, are not fully essential stores. It would also be a nightmare to manage them as we currently are managing entry to supermarkets. Any essential items one needs from those stores can now be purchased online and delivered to your door ie: contactless. If you seriously think we are at the point where we can safely open up all those stores, you are dreaming.

Why would any of those large retailers be any more difficult than a supermarket?

[justakiwi]

Why take the risk when we can purchase from these storesonline? And once we are in Level 3, we will be able to buy anything from them, not only essential items.

I’m not talking forever. This is all temporary.

Why would any of those large retailers be any more difficult than a supermarket?

[justakiwi]

Sigh .... Whatever.

Australia has those sort of places open and guess what?

Their infection numbers are as good as NZ.

Are Kiwis really so hopeless compared to the Ozzies that we cannot be trusted to operate these stores safely?

[ynot]

Complex argument. Time may help resolve it but I doubt we will ever get to the bottom of this debate.
Will not know if we took the right path until we have a true measure of the aftermath.

[Balance]

Why take the risk when we can purchase from these storesonline? And once we are in Level 3, we will be able to buy anything from them, not only essential items.

I’m not talking forever. This is all temporary.

What risk if the stores are managed safely and properly like the supermarkets?

IKEA is opened in Australia and there’s a queue a km long all the time.

Are Kiwis really so hopeless vs the Aussies?

[Balance]

What risk if the stores are managed safely and properly like the supermarkets?

IKEA is opened in Australia and there’s a queue a km long all the time.

Are Kiwis really so hopeless vs the Aussies?

Plus, Aussies have been able to make more productive use of their lockdown time at home, upgrading their properties and homes.

Friends of mine in Pt Cook, Melbourne transformed their garden in the last 3 weeks - flower beds, trellises, new fences, glass house & new plantings of fruit trees - because Bunnings & gardening centres are opened!

Whole family got stuck in and they are ecstatic with what they have achieved as a family.

Guess the Aussies are better than us, huh - verdict of how this government locked NZ down vs Australia.

[justakiwi]

Well nothing anyone says will change your mind about any of this, but for what it’s worth, I disagree with you 100%. Have a nice evening.

Plus, Aussies have been able to make more productive use of their lockdown time at home, upgrading their properties and homes.

Friends of mine in Pt Cook, Melbourne transformed their garden in the last 3 weeks - flower beds, trellises, new fences, glass house & new plantings of fruit trees - because Bunnings & gardening centres are opened!

Whole family got stuck in and they are ecstatic with what they have achieved as a family.

Guess the Aussies are better than us, huh - verdict of how this government locked NZ down vs Australia.

[blackcap]

Plus, Aussies have been able to make more productive use of their lockdown time at home, upgrading their properties and homes.

Friends of mine in Pt Cook, Melbourne transformed their garden in the last 3 weeks - flower beds, trellises, new fences, glass house & new plantings of fruit trees - because Bunnings & gardening centres are opened!

Whole family got stuck in and they are ecstatic with what they have achieved as a family.

Guess the Aussies are better than us, huh - verdict of how this government locked NZ down vs Australia.

That is the galling thing for me. Plenty of stuff I would have liked to do at home, but cannot go to Mitre 10 so well lets not do it then. It was the chance for NZ to get a months worth of home stuff done that it has missed out on. Really short sighted by our Government. It would also have helped the sanity of many people greatly being able to be productive even whilst in lockdown. No different Mitre 10 to a supermarket one iota. If fact even a hell of a lot safer as the ailes are generally a lot wider and there is heaps more space. The govt missed a huge trick here.