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    Quote Originally Posted by blackcap View Post
    That is the galling thing for me. Plenty of stuff I would have liked to do at home, but cannot go to Mitre 10 so well lets not do it then. It was the chance for NZ to get a months worth of home stuff done that it has missed out on. Really short sighted by our Government. It would also have helped the sanity of many people greatly being able to be productive even whilst in lockdown. No different Mitre 10 to a supermarket one iota. If fact even a hell of a lot safer as the ailes are generally a lot wider and there is heaps more space. The govt missed a huge trick here.
    Let’s remember how this government is screwing businesses, risk takers and those who have get up and go to the wall, come September.

    Social welfarism gone mad to gain popularity - that’s the long and short of how this government is implementing its so-called economic cushion to New Zealanders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Let’s remember how this government is screwing businesses, risk takers and those who have get up and go to the wall, come September.

    Social welfarism gone mad to gain popularity - that’s the long and short of how this government is implementing its so-called economic cushion to New Zealanders.
    How many businesses are screwed which wouldn't have been screwed with a 30% tourist downturn anyway?
    Screwing business seems to be a throwaway line without anything to back it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dobby41 View Post
    How many businesses are screwed which wouldn't have been screwed with a 30% tourist downturn anyway?
    Screwing business seems to be a throwaway line without anything to back it up.
    Try the Mom and Dad cafes and restaurants for starters.

    Then, move to the Warehouse, Mitre 10 and K-marts.

    Not a sausage in direct help from this government - after their businesses are locked down with revenues squeezed to zero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Try the Mom and Dad cafes and restaurants for starters.

    Then, move to the Warehouse, Mitre 10 and K-marts.

    Not a sausage in direct help from this government - after their businesses are locked down with revenues squeezed to zero.
    There will be impact for all the economy.
    You can't expect the Govt to refund all lost earnings (no matter which style of lockdown you'd prefer implemented).
    Many cafes and restautants will be affected and will go under because tourism is down.
    Only a Sweden type approach would have allowed cafes and restaurants to continue to operate unhindered, and even then with the border closed patronage will be down.
    I wouldn't be happy if the Govt used my taxes (and future generations) to prop up the Warehouse, K-mart etc.
    I suspect you won't be happy with anything this Govt does but if National did the same they would be briliant. Usually you have a good economic head on your shoulders but politics givs you a jaundiced view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dobby41 View Post
    There will be impact for all the economy.
    You can't expect the Govt to refund all lost earnings (no matter which style of lockdown you'd prefer implemented).
    Many cafes and restautants will be affected and will go under because tourism is down.
    Only a Sweden type approach would have allowed cafes and restaurants to continue to operate unhindered, and even then with the border closed patronage will be down.
    I wouldn't be happy if the Govt used my taxes (and future generations) to prop up the Warehouse, K-mart etc.
    I suspect you won't be happy with anything this Govt does but if National did the same they would be briliant. Usually you have a good economic head on your shoulders but politics givs you a jaundiced view.
    Look across to the Tasman and you will see what can be done - with the same results as we are getting here of tackling the virus.

    Tourism down will impact on mostly tourism related businesses - all the more reason to allow Mum & Dad cafes & restaurants to do takeaways like in Australia to earn some income (because they are getting zero - their livelihoods have been pulled from them).

    Propping up Warehouse, K-mart & Mitre 10? All they want is what Australia has done - allow them to open and in a safe manner, sell their products.

    And the least that this government could have done is provide for rental relief - but no, its deeply ingrained socialist anti-landlord bias does not allow it to even do that!

    Funny how you Labourites try and steer the debate away from Australia - an inferior complex?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Plus, Aussies have been able to make more productive use of their lockdown time at home, upgrading their properties and homes.

    Friends of mine in Pt Cook, Melbourne transformed their garden in the last 3 weeks - flower beds, trellises, new fences, glass house & new plantings of fruit trees - because Bunnings & gardening centres are opened!

    Whole family got stuck in and they are ecstatic with what they have achieved as a family.

    Guess the Aussies are better than us, huh - verdict of how this government locked NZ down vs Australia.
    I know plenty of Kiwis who have spent the time renovating and rejuvenating their properties. If they have run out of product, they have turned to other things, like spring cleaning and pruning etc. You have to remember too, here in Auckland, thanks to government policies or lack of them by both National and Labour, over half of the properties are rental properties.

    I have voted for both the Nats and Labs in the past, however I shudder to think how Simon Bridges would have handled Coronavirus. My
    guess it would be more like what Boris Johnson has done in England.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Try the Mom and Dad cafes and restaurants for starters.

    Then, move to the Warehouse, Mitre 10 and K-marts.

    Not a sausage in direct help from this government - after their businesses are locked down with revenues squeezed to zero.
    How would you expect that Balance with an attitude like Deborah Russell MP for New Lynn who doesn't understand why small businesses are so weak "after only a few weeks" of no revenue ??? https://www.facebook.com/nztaxpayers...4688764103936/

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    How would you expect that Balance with an attitude like Deborah Russell MP for New Lynn who doesn't understand why small businesses are so weak "after only a few weeks" of no revenue ??? https://www.facebook.com/nztaxpayers...4688764103936/
    Words fail me!
    Last edited by Balance; 22-04-2020 at 10:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bjauck View Post

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    I have voted for both the Nats and Labs in the past, however I shudder to think how Simon Bridges would have handled Coronavirus. My
    guess it would be more like what Boris Johnson has done in England.
    Agreed - Bridges is not even able to make a credible opposition leader. Terrible timing for his criticisms and frequent pointless nagging instead of focusing on what really matters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Funny how you Labourites try and steer the debate away from Australia - an inferior complex?
    I don't have any problem looking at what Aus has done.
    It is interesting, similar per capita cases and a few more deaths.
    But as it isn't over yet the full economic impact is not known.
    What has been the $ impact in Australia and how much more to come?
    The show isn't over until the fat lady sings - Singapore, Japan and others have shown that with cases spiking up again.

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