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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2020/04/2...n-for-business

    So much for the government loan scheme with the banks.
    In that example a hotel owner is mentioned. Is it worth throwing taxpayers money away on these people when demand will not come back?

    What would you like to see, do you expect every business to be paid their expenses?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    In that example a hotel owner is mentioned. Is it worth throwing taxpayers money away on these people when demand will not come back?

    What would you like to see, do you expect every business to be paid their expenses?
    So why is Cindy helping the media then?

    And as for picking winners, is that not what the Provincial Growth Fund doing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    So why is Cindy helping the media then?
    That is wrong too and shouldn't happen. Though it's not expensive unlike what others seem to be hinting at. The bad ideas should always be called out IMO.

    Assets, buildings will be taken over by recievers who will sell it on to some other group. This is desirable and LLC's and the Companies Act etc are tailor made for this sitation. Try not to worry so much they are being advised by competent people. Blue or red, all they do is post on social media and collect a salary while the real work is done behind the scenes. Though for disclosure sake I generally prefer Labour (minus the chch rebuild nats have nothing since GDP "per capita" was in stagnantion at best or decline).
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    Agents of misfortune
    "Labour MP Deborah Russell has copped a lot of flak this week from left wingers and right wingers alike for suggesting – in a question she posed to Grant Robertson at the Epidemic Response Committee – that maybe some of the small businesses struggling to survive Covid-19 came into the crisis in a weakened state. Could our low wage economy, she asked Robertson, have induced some people to set up shop when they lacked the expertise, business advice and resources necessary to survive a major external shock ?
    Robertson and PM Jacinda Ardern both quickly distanced themselves from Russell, and from any inference that Labour thought that firms being hit by a once-in-a-century pandemic might have been in any way the agents of their own misfortune. But hang on. How is what Russell said any different to Robertson himself saying only a week or so ago, that mainstream media companies came into the Covid-19 crisis with pre-existing conditions?
    Russell wasn’t saying these firms had only themselves to blame and/or didn’t deserve government support. She was asking whether Robertson thought our low wage economy had left them vulnerable, and less resilient. If politicians on the centre-left are being forbidden to debate such matters in public, then we’re really in bad shape. After all, the centre-right is usually more than happy to let low-income workers and beneficiaries go to the wall, and blame them for their plight"
    Gordon Campbell on why governments are in effect, printing cash to defeat Covid-19

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    So why is Cindy helping the media then?
    Because we need competition in the media?
    It will be interesting if they give much more to print media given that it has been going down for years whereas radio is still viable long term with a bit of help to get them through this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dobby41 View Post
    Because we need competition in the media?
    It will be interesting if they give much more to print media given that it has been going down for years whereas radio is still viable long term with a bit of help to get them through this.
    Because they have been so besotted with her and promote her at every opportunity possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Because they have been so besotted with her and promote her at every opportunity possible.
    I hope not but I don't think NewsTalk ZB is very besotted with her (quite the opposite) but they get relief also.
    Your bias is showing big time in this.
    I know they will never do anything right in your book but some people are just like that.

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    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...ectid=12327102

    Home truths about this government :

    Ardern may be one of the world's best symbolic communicators, but that can't hide her Government's profound incompetence.

    It has failed utterly on

    housing,

    wellbeing,

    child poverty,

    tertiary education participation,

    school management reform,

    freshwater allocation,

    cleaner rivers,

    the capital gains tax,

    openness and transparency,

    mental health and

    even gun reform
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    Growth was slowing before the world had suffered even its first case of Covid-19.

    Ardern introduced rigorous quarantining at the border well after Australia, costing a handful of lives, and her health authorities have proven incompetent at distributing either flu vaccines or PPE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...ectid=12327102

    Home truths about this government :
    Interesting that the only viable alternative is worse on all/most of these things. It's about choosing the better option not the "perfect" option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    Interesting that the only viable alternative is worse on all/most of these things. It's about choosing the better option not the perfect option.
    Sad state of a loser mindset.

    Lucky it is only contagious and infectious amongst losers?
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