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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    No they didn't. That's a phrase often squawked by parrots, but it's nonsense.
    Do you think the Nazis or the Japanese wouldn't have done away with our civil liberties?

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    Telling it as it is - Cindy & her bunch of incompetents have no idea whatsoever about business, and it shows.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12327901

    One of the owners of Glenfield mall in Auckland, Dallas Pendergrast, said they had 115 tenants and they'd halved their rents during the lockdown.

    And they would be doing that again next month but there was uncertainty about how long that could continue.

    The Government had totally ignored SMEs, she said.

    Pendergrast called Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern's public thanks to SMEs "an insult" because the Government had "no idea" about small businesses.

    "They don't want a thank you, they want to get back to work.

    "In the meantime they want Government help."

    Compassion didn't pay the bills, she said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonu View Post
    Do you think the Nazis or the Japanese wouldn't have done away with our civil liberties?
    If it were not for the Americans and our armies fighting, we would be speaking a version of Nip right now in NZ. Or if not speaking it, it would be the official language and we non Japs would be slaves to the Emporer. Pretty sure our civil liberties would be gone.
    As for Europe, well we all know what happened between 1940 and 1944 under Nazi rule. Civil liberties totally gone and Jews and other non humans exterminated. Yeah nah, don't buy it as myth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonu View Post
    The most open and transparent government ever....according to Cindy that is. Clark didn't get the memo apparently. Or maybe Cindy and Clark both know what's in the report. Oh gee...forgot to remove my tinhat for Vagabond47's peace of mind.
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12328085

    Very same David Clark who does not have time to read the Healthcare Report but strike #3, he has time to move house!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12328085

    Very same David Clark who does not have time to read the Healthcare Report but strike #3, he has time to move house!
    Talking of Japanese On this thread , wonder if Labour Govt adopting the same approach with job for life .... It’s like a downgrade from a company there is always another to come . Jacinda should have sacked him first offence . All she has done is leave him on a whooping ministers salary to let Ashley do his job for the last month .

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    Quote Originally Posted by stoploss View Post
    Talking of Japanese On this thread , wonder if Labour Govt adopting the same approach with job for life .... It’s like a downgrade from a company there is always another to come . Jacinda should have sacked him first offence . All she has done is leave him on a whooping ministers salary to let Ashley do his job for the last month .

    There is very good point on exactly why CLARK & his Ministry Of Health did not pick up the Virus Trend in countries very close to China in early days & pick up / research why the likes of Taiwan had so Low Death & Infection rates for their population & why that was occurring..

    It was really only very Simple Analysis that was needed - ie: Which Countries should be on the Chart but are NOT ; or are not following the general expected trend ? Even a child could work out what was missing on a chart!

    Is this sort of trend analysis too much to ask of presumed intelligent High Level Health Professionals & Spinning Political Numpties to exercise just a little commonsense & use the things parked on their shoulders to look just a little outside the box ?

    Taiwan should have come up instantly & given them idea of exactly what was needed to deal with & contain things at an early time.

    Taiwan are experienced in dealing with Pandemic type events from past - and were turning away Cruise Ships / preparing from January 2020

    The First & Most important First Warning Govt & Ministry of Health had was the Mercy Flight of Passengers off the Cruise Ship up not far from Taiwan - in receipt of this they dithered and dreamed on looking only at what was immediately infront of their Noses with Whangaparaoa Quarantine ignoring the picture outside the box, but not by far.

    Govt's own lack of action & Tardiness in looking at the valid correct pointers, with effective action needed in time at that time effectively resulted in their orchestrating an even larger (& unnecessary) Crisis on the whole country.

    The Labour Government & Ministry of Health have a very lot to answer for to all Kiwi's for the apparently slow, ineffective & incompetent dealing with the Covid-19 Pandemic from outset and both Govt & MOH could have done very considerably better
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    This would change things wouldn't it ? https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ina-scientists

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    Quote Originally Posted by nztx View Post
    T Tardiness in looking at the valid correct pointers, with effective action needed in time at that time effectively resulted in their orchestrating an even larger (& unnecessary) Crisis on the whole country.

    The Labour Government & Ministry of Health have a very lot to answer for to all Kiwi's for the apparently slow, ineffective & incompetent dealing with the Covid-19 Pandemic from outset and both Govt & MOH could have done very considerably better
    You are in the minority there https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12324302

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    Quote Originally Posted by westerly View Post
    You are in the minority there https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12324302

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    Try harder, westerly - article dated 12 April, over 2 weeks ago.

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    You are away with the fairies. In a situation like this, or any other emergency/crisis situation, of course the government must tell us “what to do.” Did you complain when you were told not to go into the city after the Christchurch earthquakes? Did you complain when you were told to stay away from the mosque after the terror attack? Would you complain if you heard a tsunami siren telling you to stay away from the coast? For Pete’s sake - the government has a role to play in any crisis situation and you and I, as citizens do as we are told.

    It is as if you you have set yourself an “every minute of every day” mission to somehow convince NZ that Jacinda is the Devil. You have blinders on buddy.

    Quote Originally Posted by blackcap View Post
    Well it looks like we are already right in the middle of it with our glorious leader Jacinda and the apparachik telling us all what we can and cannot do. Questions being answered with a "no" and left at that. "only believe us and our handlers". Definitely centralised left wing authoritarian rule evident in NZ. Not good, quite worrying really.

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