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    The tone of this piece from Fran O'Sullivan suggests she is wearing thin of Cindy's arrogance. But will Cindy "dismiss" the Business Council?

    O'Sullivan hints she is being disingenuous in her dealings with them. Not Cindy surely? The most open and transparent! Transparent in her bullsh***ery perhaps.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...ectid=12333598

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    https://shorthand.radionz.co.nz/coll...-19/index.html

    Collateral damage of COVID-19 and the lockdown.

    For those genuinely interested in understanding the human costs of what is unfolding out there.
    What are you suggesting we do now - not what you think we should have done in the past?
    Some business will fail, some will lose their life savings, capital will be destroyed.
    This happens, always has happened, happened during the GFC.
    Should failing business be propped up? No matter what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dobby41 View Post
    What are you suggesting we do now - not what you think we should have done in the past?
    Some business will fail, some will lose their life savings, capital will be destroyed.
    This happens, always has happened, happened during the GFC.
    Should failing business be propped up? No matter what?
    It need not have happened if the lockdown was similar to Australia - thousands of jobs could have been saved - eg. Their building & construction sector, big DIY stores & the likes of Ikea were allowed to operate while NZ was a total lockdown for 5 long weeks.

    A tree can take 15 years to grow to maturity but only needs an idiot with a chain-saw an hour to cut it down & kill it. Likewise, businesses.

    This government has not given 1 direct cent to businesses - zero, let alone prop up businesses!

    But it is what it is - now it’s a question of who has got the better plan, the experience and confidence of a majority of NZers to guide NZ out of the worse recession this country will go through.

    Let the battle commences!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    It need not have happened if the lockdown was similar to Australia - thousands of jobs could have been saved - eg. Their building & construction sector, big DIY stores & the likes of Ikea were allowed to operate while NZ was a total lockdown for 5 long weeks.

    Nothing was known about the virus at the start. No chances were taken and this was appropriate. short and decisive vs extended for months and months (other business will suffer from that). Great leadership on display and hopefully we can have a safe reopening.

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    So Bridges is gone. Now we have a real contest between Brand Cindy vs Team National.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300...-twoyear-reign

    An excellent start.

    There is only Team National and policies are to benefit all New Zealanders, not just the beneficiaries which St Cindy & her incompetents are hell bent on growing & cultivating for votes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    Nothing was known about the virus at the start. No chances were taken and this was appropriate. short and decisive vs extended for months and months (other business will suffer from that). Great leadership on display and hopefully we can have a safe reopening.
    Reopening of what?

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    You did not answer dobby41’s question. All you ever do is bitch about what the government has done wrong and imply that they should be doing something else. What exactly should they be doing for businesses? Give us some specific actions that would meet with your approval. Not just the same old, same old waffle. Give us a list of what you think the government should be doing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    It need not have happened if the lockdown was similar to Australia - thousands of jobs could have been saved - eg. Their building & construction sector, big DIY stores & the likes of Ikea were allowed to operate while NZ was a total lockdown for 5 long weeks.

    A tree can take 15 years to grow to maturity but only needs an idiot with a chain-saw an hour to cut it down & kill it. Likewise, businesses.

    This government has not given 1 direct cent to businesses - zero, let alone prop up businesses!

    But it is what it is - now it’s a question of who has got the better plan, the experience and confidence of a majority of NZers to guide NZ out of the worse recession this country will go through.

    Let the battle commences!

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    Quote Originally Posted by justakiwi View Post
    You did not answer dobby41’s question. All you ever do is bitch about what the government has done wrong and imply that they should be doing something else. What exactly should they be doing for businesses? Give us some specific actions that would meet with your approval. Not just the same old, same old waffle. Give us a list of what you think the government should be doing?
    For starters, cut back on the payout to beneficiaries - they need to work and they cannot pick and choose where and how they work. There are jobs in the agricultural, building & construction, supermarket, manufacturing, infrastructure & horticultural sectors - why does NZ use migrant workers to do those jobs?

    Think this government will stray into that area and risk their votes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    For starters, cut back on the payout to beneficiaries - they need to work and they cannot pick and choose where and how they work. There are jobs in the agricultural, building & construction, supermarket, manufacturing, infrastructure & horticultural sectors - why does NZ use migrant workers to do those jobs?

    Think this government will stray into that area and risk their votes?
    Great way to lead into a depression and ruin confidence. thankfully these ideas are not represented in government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    Great way to lead into a depression and ruin confidence. thankfully these ideas are not represented in government.
    Why? Basic economics.

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