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29-05-2020, 08:58 AM
#4341
Originally Posted by blackcap
Have a listen to Jacinda's speech and tell me she is not a socialist (or actually closer to communist). Asked about this she has said her ideology has not changed in the intervening years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9rsxFaq6Ig
Leopards do not change their spots. Comrade Cindy is having the time of her life, living out her wildest socialist dreams of redistributing wealth from those who work hard & take risks to those who just work or cannot be bothered working.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political...-quarterly-msd
Pumping out billions in wage subsidies but have little or no interest in how much have been inappropriately or fraudulently obtained by employers & employees out there. Typical of a socialist style government.
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29-05-2020, 11:24 AM
#4342
Originally Posted by Balance
Leopards do not change their spots. Comrade Cindy is having the time of her life, living out her wildest socialist dreams of redistributing wealth from those who work hard & take risks to those who just work or cannot be bothered working.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political...-quarterly-msd
Pumping out billions in wage subsidies but have little or no interest in how much have been inappropriately or fraudulently obtained by employers & employees out there. Typical of a socialist style government.
The Conservative government in the UK have also utilised massive wage subsidies. The Republican administration in the USA have also transferred $1200 to every taxpayer in the USA. So are Conservative Boris Johnson and Republican Donald Trump also captured under your definition of typical socialist governments??
Last edited by Sgt Pepper; 29-05-2020 at 11:25 AM.
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29-05-2020, 12:08 PM
#4343
Originally Posted by Sgt Pepper
The Conservative government in the UK have also utilised massive wage subsidies. The Republican administration in the USA have also transferred $1200 to every taxpayer in the USA. So are Conservative Boris Johnson and Republican Donald Trump also captured under your definition of typical socialist governments??
Compare & contrast with what has also been given out to businesses, especially SMEs in those countries vs NZ. That’s your answer.
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29-05-2020, 01:18 PM
#4344
Would you post a link to what they have done for SMEs please? As you have obviously already seen this info it would save me googling to find it.
Originally Posted by Balance
Compare & contrast with what has also been given out to businesses, especially SMEs in those countries vs NZ. That’s your answer.
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29-05-2020, 01:31 PM
#4345
[QUOTE=blackcap;818573]Have a listen to Jacinda's speech and tell me she is not a socialist (or actually closer to communist). Asked about this she has said her ideology has not changed in the intervening years.Quote
Probably meets the US Conservative definition of a communist. Anyone not half way past centre right.
westerly
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29-05-2020, 01:32 PM
#4346
Originally Posted by Balance
Compare & contrast with what has also been given out to businesses, especially SMEs in those countries vs NZ. That’s your answer.
So your prescription for business support would be? Please share it with us
by the way here is a copy from UK Government websitePart of Coronavirus (COVID-19)Business support
Coronavirus (COVID-19) support is available to businesses
- Loans, tax relief and cash grants are available
- Employers can apply for staff to get up to 80% pay if they can’t work
- Self-employed people can receive up to £2,500 per month in grants for at least 3 months
Last edited by Sgt Pepper; 29-05-2020 at 01:36 PM.
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29-05-2020, 03:03 PM
#4347
Originally Posted by westerly
Have a listen to Jacinda's speech and tell me she is not a socialist (or actually closer to communist). Asked about this she has said her ideology has not changed in the intervening years.Quote
Probably meets the US Conservative definition of a communist. Anyone not half way past centre right.
westerly
The problem is she used the word 'comrade'.
For many who are still stuck in the McCarthy era, if you refer to someone as a 'comrade' you must be a Communist.
Pretty basic thinking from basic people.
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29-05-2020, 03:09 PM
#4348
Originally Posted by dobby41
The problem is she used the word 'comrade'.
For many who are still stuck in the McCarthy era, if you refer to someone as a 'comrade' you must be a Communist.
Pretty basic thinking from basic people.
The reason Cindy used "Comrade" was for the very reason you speak of. She wanted to be identified with her tribe. She had no other reason to use such an outdated and connotation heavy expression.
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29-05-2020, 05:29 PM
#4349
Originally Posted by jonu
The reason Cindy used "Comrade" was for the very reason you speak of. She wanted to be identified with her tribe. She had no other reason to use such an outdated and connotation heavy expression.
It seems to be the use of 'comrade' that has caught peoples attention rather than what she was actually saying.
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29-05-2020, 06:38 PM
#4350
Originally Posted by jonu
The reason Cindy used "Comrade" was for the very reason you speak of. She wanted to be identified with her tribe. She had no other reason to use such an outdated and connotation heavy expression.
Pretty basic black and white sorta thinking style there Jonu. Youve never experienced the vast and rich multitude of shades of gray in between by the looks.
And you are telling us how another unique being is responding and why.Thats pretty psychocreepy cobber.
Mate;maybe start adding diversity and shades to your life and speak for your own 2D life experience and not guess about others, they are actually different to your own unique sig. And what ever youve got under your bed well.....thats cool cause its yours , for better or worse.
Have a good weekend hon.
Last edited by Joshuatree; 29-05-2020 at 06:40 PM.
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