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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    Why should I care if it's not based on facts?

    Though clark should go as its bad optics now to keep him there. That is assuming a transition can be done seamlessly, if it can't then he should stay.

    We shouldn't chop and change people during a "health" crisis unless they have done something seriously wrong which doesn't seem to be the case as the procedures were correct but not followed by a likely low level employee.
    Nothing seriously wrong ? Just failed to obey his own lockdown directions .Sat it out in Dunedin whilst we were in the midst of our biggest health crisis in a generation . He let Bloomfield run the show , when he should have been in Wellington 24/7 saving the nation .
    Now he puts the knife into the civil servant that did his job for him ...maybe if he was here planning how quarantine would work we wouldn’t be faced with the problems that have eventuated.
    If you think he has done nothing seriously wrong maybe look at it another way what has he got right ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stoploss View Post
    Nothing seriously wrong ? Just failed to obey his own lockdown directions .Sat it out in Dunedin whilst we were in the midst of our biggest health crisis in a generation . He let Bloomfield run the show , when he should have been in Wellington 24/7 saving the nation .
    Thank goodness for that. Who would you rather trust, a DR or a politican? other countries went with the politican and it didn't work well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    Thank goodness for that. Who would you rather trust, a DR or a politican? other countries went with the politican and it didn't work well.
    Some wag has edited wikipedia for David Clark. Note the "under the bus" policy


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    DescriptionDavid Scott Clark is a New Zealand Labour Party politician who is the Member of Parliament for Dunedin North. He is the Minister for Health. And an avid campaigner for throwing under the bus policy. Previously he has been Opposition Spokesperson for Small Business and Economic Development. Wikipedia

    By the way Dr Clark studied medicine before changing studies. He is a doctor....evidently the wrong sort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stoploss View Post
    Nothing seriously wrong ? Just failed to obey his own lockdown directions .Sat it out in Dunedin whilst we were in the midst of our biggest health crisis in a generation . He let Bloomfield run the show , when he should have been in Wellington 24/7 saving the nation .
    Now he puts the knife into the civil servant that did his job for him ...maybe if he was here planning how quarantine would work we wouldn’t be faced with the problems that have eventuated.
    If you think he has done nothing seriously wrong maybe look at it another way what has he got right ?
    Nah donīt worry stoploss. Panda says itīs just "bad optics" keeping Clark there. I donīt think we have seen a more incompetent senior Minister in NZ for a very long time and it is beyond belief that the PM still keeps him there. The biggest health crisis in the Nationīs history and he is nowhere to be seen (thankfully) and if he does show up, he disgraces himself with his incompetence and gutlessness. So normally one would expect the assistant Healh Minister to step up. How many of you have seen that Minister during this crisis or even know who it is ? Well it is the same Minister who is also assistance Transport Minister. She has shown the lack of talent pool in the Greens as well. Totally useless.
    The election which has been regarded as "in the bag" by the left and NZ media for the last few months, may be a lot more interesting than they are predicting. NZ is finally waking up to this incompetent PM and Government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    Nah donīt worry stoploss. Panda says itīs just "bad optics" keeping Clark there. I donīt think we have seen a more incompetent senior Minister in NZ for a very long time and it is beyond belief that the PM still keeps him there. The biggest health crisis in the Nationīs history and he is nowhere to be seen (thankfully) and if he does show up, he disgraces himself with his incompetence and gutlessness. So normally one would expect the assistant Healh Minister to step up. How many of you have seen that Minister during this crisis or even know who it is ? Well it is the same Minister who is also assistance Transport Minister. She has shown the lack of talent pool in the Greens as well. Totally useless.
    The election which has been regarded as "in the bag" by the left and NZ media for the last few months, may be a lot more interesting than they are predicting. NZ is finally waking up to this incompetent PM and Government.
    Gerry Brownlee? Hekia Parata?

    David Clark hasn't done "anything" is what some are saying. I say that's good. That's what you want when you have better qualified people available to the government. National's health person is not even a doctor and made up some claims about a homeless man. not ethical.
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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300...ry-in-new-poll

    9% swing away from Labour back to National, and 1% swing from NZF to Act.

    Game back on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    Gerry Brownlee? Hekia Parata?

    David Clark hasn't done "anything" is the criticism from some quarters. I say good. That's what you want when you have better qualified people available to the government. National's health person is not even a doctor and made up some claims about a homeless man.
    LOL panda re the national health spokesman ...
    News for you David Clark is not a medical Dr either
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    I know but the public thinks he is one and that's what matters

    He is a dr but not in health.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300...ry-in-new-poll

    9% swing away from Labour back to National, and 1% swing from NZF to Act.

    Game back on.
    When will Amy Adams come up with the plan. you can't say you have a plan then not deliver the goods.
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    1 person (yes, one) actually voted for non-essential worker David Clark 🐒 as preferred PM in TV1 polls released tonight. 🤣

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