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    Two comments from letters to the editor re elections that I agree with.

    We do not need to delay the election; the electorate are better off not hearing electioneering nonsense. We will make our decision based on past performance and credibility. Anyone who has experienced more than one electoral cycle will know that political promises before elections are not to be trusted: Show me the five new bridges in Northland. We should slow-clap the remnants as they leave the field.

    Rob Muldoon once said after calling a snap election "It doesn't give my opponents much time either".

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...41&&ref=topbox

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/hea...ion-over-tests

    Good luck trying to get to the truth with this government - they only know spin when they stuff up.

    Ardern on Thursday, at a press conference with Bloomfield, gave assurances workers at quarantine facilities were being tested weekly.

    “If you work outside of that [quarantine facilities], it’s a slightly longer rotation but still frequent,” she said.
    Here’s more spin for those who love being treated like sheep (& are sheep):

    On Newshub this morning :

    Cindy - We were the only country to have 102 days of zero communal spread cases.

    Fact check - Taiwan has had no communal spread cases since 8 April, 127 days.



    https://www.aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacifi...0-days/1918669

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    Quote Originally Posted by moka View Post
    Two comments from letters to the editor re elections that I agree with.

    We do not need to delay the election; the electorate are better off not hearing electioneering nonsense. We will make our decision based on past performance and credibility. Anyone who has experienced more than one electoral cycle will know that political promises before elections are not to be trusted: Show me the five new bridges in Northland. We should slow-clap the remnants as they leave the field.

    Rob Muldoon once said after calling a snap election "It doesn't give my opponents much time either".

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...41&&ref=topbox
    A highly simplistic analysis that fails to acknowledge the difficulty under the current set of circumstances in objectively evaluating performance of the various parties one can vote for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moka View Post
    Two comments from letters to the editor re elections that I agree with.

    "Show me the five new bridges in Northland. "
    Can you explain to me; how you expect a party in opposition to progress the building of bridges?
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    A useful attempt at evaluating the cost-benefit analysis of lockdowns. Doesn't profess to have "the" answer, but it does highlight the complete lack of similar analysis from those that should be expected to produce such analysis.

    https://croakingcassandra.com/2020/0...a-d52cc6ae3044

    https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.ne...pdf?1597378829

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/hea...ked-to-cluster

    Basic - compulsory testing of all frontline workers and government has been asleep as usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
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    Basic - compulsory testing of all frontline workers and government has been asleep as usual.

    I have long known that what has been seen of frontline testing being bandied about by Labour's Politizarani spinners wasn't what was happening - in fact very far from any excuse for what they were portraying. Ask any front line worker what they saw ..

    Try also mingling of those from front line with others in various departments, which is & has been widespread as well.

    The Basic GOVERNMENT FAIL is far larger & widespread than what is being unearthed now - believe me!

    Read it on the face of HIPKINS every time he fronts the Camera & his trying to cover up for very obvious floundering around with glaring omissions right through many front line organisations.

    If Govt think they are in control of things - then they are dreaming..

    It's surprising the extent of overall fail hasn't resulted in far more serious consequences to this point in time.
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    Our Minister of Bullshi**ery has spent 15 minutes at her craft this afternoon ducking and diving around what is obvious to everyone.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12357542

    There we have our "Clear and Transparent" PM. Only the most gullible and naive would swallow that crock of sh** from Ardern

    Collins is surprisingly underwhelming on her feet in the House. Though I suspect she is building a case to expose Ardern for what she is.

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    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12357481

    Infected worker had cough, went through ‘health’ check but NOT virus test and allowed to work for 2 days before being tested properly.

    Any sensible system would have any frontline staff showing any kind of symptoms be tested immediately - surely!

    This government has learnt absolutely nothing from the first quarantine bungle - woman released from quarantine without testing (despite symptoms attributed to 'pre-existing' conditions) to go on compassionate grounds to Wellington.

    Now they allow a frontline worker (most vulnerable to catching the virus) to continue working when he has symptoms attributed again to 'pre-existing' conditions!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonu View Post
    Our Minister of Bullshi**ery has spent 15 minutes at her craft this afternoon ducking and diving around what is obvious to everyone.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12357542

    There we have our "Clear and Transparent" PM. Only the most gullible and naive would swallow that crock of sh** from Ardern

    Collins is surprisingly underwhelming on her feet in the House. Though I suspect she is building a case to expose Ardern for what she is.
    Collins will be fishing. Just like Melissa Lee did with Clare Curran. Dont hit them straight away. Give them enough so that they step right into it and then WHAM.

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