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    Yes thats been the national easy fix for a long time, import people, clog up our country, infrastructure , housing , prisons you name it, what a mess they've left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    Silly comment westerly that we can not cope with 200 extra students. We are in desperate need of much more medical doctors and as BP points out, we'er currently importing a whole lot of them. Auckland and Otago Universities have lodged a competitive bid so the debate is hardly about whether there is need for the students or not.
    The Waikato DHB, the University, Owen Glenn, Waikato politicians (Labour and National) and many others agree with this proposal.
    I did not say we could not cope with 200 more students, that was a quote by the Dean of the Medical and Health Science Faculty at Waikato University. He was saying the Waikato hospital could not cope with training an extra 200 students. I assume some training is done at the hospital

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Simon bridges was the guy who gave $50,000 away to that entity in 2017 lol, not recoverable
    So you mean the department (not SB) paid $50k in 2017 BEFORE the SFO investigation, for work conducted in 2016? $50k is also less than the amount where he would personally be alerted to said payment.

    The moral of the story is, make sure as minister you are privy to every transaction and business dealing AND make sure you can see into the future. That's not something any party has been able to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    Silly comment westerly that we can not cope with 200 extra students. We are in desperate need of much more medical doctors and as BP points out, we'er currently importing a whole lot of them. Auckland and Otago Universities have lodged a competitive bid so the debate is hardly about whether there is need for the students or not.
    The Waikato DHB, the University, Owen Glenn, Waikato politicians (Labour and National) and many others agree with this proposal.
    The big picture at Waikato Uni is that VC Quigley is pretty far-right and has already effectively delivered a pay decrease to staff by charging for their parking for the first time, and students too. On top of that, he's keen on crippling the Music department and other areas deemed not to be exciting enough in terms of volume. Waikato Uni already has a fairly new Law School, competing with other universities, and are we sure we need a lot more lawyers? Auckland and Otago have brought in a proposal for more Rural Doctor training, and in view of their existing expertise in the area, it would probably be a better bet, and cheaper.

    I raised a glass of beer to Bill English's departure today. I thought his JK Baxter metaphor was interesting. Taking a chisel to NZ over the 10,000 days he was a politician. Perhaps I might suggest it was a pretty blunt chisel, maybe a cold chisel, and it might well have been a pick axe, or in view of his penchant for irrigation, a water blaster.

    National are the guys who removed Labour's R&D tax credits, accessible by all SMEs, and instead doled out $5mill per company in grants to those who were of a sufficient scale to meet the criteria of R&D spend. So just tens of companies in NZ. The result of that was seen in the Waikato Times today, BBC Technologies sold for $67mill to an overseas buyer who already owns Compac. How long before BBC disappears offshore like Endace did (back in local hands recently, based in Auckland), with no compunction for the company shareholders to refund any of their taxpayer R&D grants, and of course no tax to pay on the capital gain either. Like Trademe before them, this company was probably due to run into some decent profit, and would have had to pay some ongoing tax. Cue the sale. BBC also accessed several other grants over the years, they got pretty good at it.

    If small NZ is to encourage R&D, let's do it at the initial stage, bring through hundreds of new companies, each of which will need to gear up and employ people to do their research and develop IP. So that's through R&D tax credits, easily the best option. Labour said they'll bring it back.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/inn...rossparty-deal
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    Clare Curran donky deep in shonky politics. If this is the level of Labour ministers well they have big problems.

    https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2018/03/c...t-melissa-lee/

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    Whale oil the lowest of the low , a mercenary dirt gun for hire imo.National still up to their dirty tricks politics still?

    Great to see consumer confidence the highest in 5 months
    NZ consumer confidence rises to 127.7 in February - ANZ survey

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Whale oil the lowest of the low , a mercenary dirt gun for hire imo.National still up to their dirty tricks politics still?

    Great to see consumer confidence the highest in 5 months
    NZ consumer confidence rises to 127.7 in February - ANZ survey
    Whale oil are just the messenger. You cannot dispute the fact the Curran looked very uncomfortable, out of her depth, and may need to resign if Lee can make this stick!

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    Silly comment westerly that we can not cope with 200 extra students. We are in desperate need of much more medical doctors and as BP points out, we'er currently importing a whole lot of them. Auckland and Otago Universities have lodged a competitive bid so the debate is hardly about whether there is need for the students or not.
    The Waikato DHB, the University, Owen Glenn, Waikato politicians (Labour and National) and many others agree with this proposal.
    IME, the issue isn't so much the lack of locally produced talent, it's that said talent can gain much higher levels of pay and experience overseas so that's where they naturally head. To fill the gap, we must recruit foreign talent. All highly skilled industries are experiencing this issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackcap View Post
    Whale oil are just the messenger. You cannot dispute the fact the Curran looked very uncomfortable, out of her depth, and may need to resign if Lee can make this stick!
    whale oil are bottom feeding mud throwers, throw some money and they will dig and slant whatever slant you want imo. Go for quality and transparency and truth, raise your own standards and we all benefit. Got a quality source?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    whale oil are bottom feeding mud throwers, throw some money and they will dig and slant whatever slant you want imo. Go for quality and transparency and truth, raise your own standards and we all benefit. Got a quality source?
    I said WO were the messenger.... all you need to do is watch the question in Parliament yesterday... that is the source.

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