Labour / NZ First Government

[blackcap]

I find it frightening to see so much hostility directed at Ardern. Unfortunately we live in a culture where when something goes wrong it is okay to find a woman to blame, because it is acceptable to blame women, that is one of their roles to be scapegoats, so men can vent their outraged feelings against a target without being accountable. That’s why domestic violence is so high in New Zealand. Rather than dealing with your feelings in a healthy way, it is okay to vent them against someone you see as lower than you on the pecking order. With a rant, you release your feelings by abusing someone else, and that is not okay. Bullying is just normal behaviour that s excused, when it is directed against women politicians.

Whatever. . Gender has nothing to do with it. She gets the criticism because it is deserved. If It were Andrew Little as PM I am sure he would be getting the same amount of "abuse". (David ****liffe anyone?) Obama was a creep too. He gets as much as Jacinda does from my perspective.

[moka]

Remember this, that gut will churn even more? Jacinda is the definition of duplicitous. She comes accross so nice but underneath it all there is something. I cant quite put a finger on it but it is dark, murky and downright nasty.

What you are doing is projecting onto Jacinda Ardern, the dark, murky and downright nasty feelings that you sometimes display on this forum. You deny your own dark, nasty feelings and see them in her. Try looking in the mirror at yourself rather than looking at Ardern with the magnifying glass for what you can’t quite put a finger on.

[Balance]

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/...iday-21-august

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Behind the scenes, Jacinda Ardern's surrogates use the strongest language to describe the accuracy of the Ministry of Health's briefings to ministers over recent weeks.

Had the Prime Minister not practically pinned a red rosette on Ashley Bloomfield over recent months, he may have been a useful fall guy for ministers' weak oversight.

Weak oversight? Try incompetence and attempts to use despicable PR spin to cover up failures to protect NZers.

[jonu]

I find it frightening to see so much hostility directed at Ardern. Unfortunately we live in a culture where when something goes wrong it is okay to find a woman to blame, because it is acceptable to blame women, that is one of their roles to be scapegoats, so men can vent their outraged feelings against a target without being accountable. That’s why domestic violence is so high in New Zealand. Rather than dealing with your feelings in a healthy way, it is okay to vent them against someone you see as lower than you on the pecking order. With a rant, you release your feelings by abusing someone else, and that is not okay. Bullying is just normal behaviour that s excused, when it is directed against women politicians.

Absolute bollocks moka. Shame on you for pulling such a "Victim" stunt. This has nothing to do with Ardern being a woman.

How typical of the left to make it about identity politics. It's their go to default position.

It's about competency and dare I say it....transparency. Something Ardern is proving a master at clouding at every opportunity. Her cynicism and condescending arrogance has seen the beginning of her downfall.

[dobby41]

Ardern is currently speaking in her daily propaganda briefing. She asks us to imagine how bad the latest outbreak would have been if they hadn't gone to level 3.

More pertinent to realise we wouldn't have needed level 3 if she and her Cabinet of Incompetents hadn't misled us for weeks on what was happening at the border.

Gut churning. Keep talking Cindy. The nation's collective bile is rising in our throats at each sugar coated load of bollocks you spout.

Unfortunately there is still no evidence that lack of adequate testing had anything to do with this outbreak.

[Balance]

What you are doing is projecting onto Jacinda Ardern, the dark, murky and downright nasty feelings that you sometimes display on this forum. You deny your own dark, nasty feelings and see them in her. Try looking in the mirror at yourself rather than looking at Ardern with the magnifying glass for what you can’t quite put a finger on.

You must look in the mirror and see a sheep looking back at you?

[jonu]

Unfortunately there is still no evidence that lack of adequate testing had anything to do with this outbreak.

If we truly had 100 days of no community transmission, the border is the only place it could have come from. Don't be fooled by the Americold distraction. Ardern even continued to bring that up today. Fudging and obscuring.....classic Ardern.

[dobby41]

If we truly had 100 days of no community transmission, the border is the only place it could have come from. Don't be fooled by the Americold distraction. Ardern even continued to bring that up today. Fudging and obscuring.....classic Ardern.

Noone was distracted by Americold. It was but one possibility and needed to be eliminated and was.
There is still no evidence that the border staff testing mess had any impact on the current situation, whether it came in the border or not.
The strain in play has not been seen at the border for some time.

[Balance]

Noone was distracted by Americold. It was but one possibility and needed to be eliminated and was.
There is still no evidence that the border staff testing mess had any impact on the current situation, whether it came in the border or not.
The strain in play has not been seen at the border for some time.

Ever heard about mutation?

[jonu]

Noone was distracted by Americold. It was but one possibility and needed to be eliminated and was.
There is still no evidence that the border staff testing mess had any impact on the current situation, whether it came in the border or not.
The strain in play has not been seen at the border for some time.

If the border wasn't a problem, why did Ardern and her Cabinet of Incompetents jump like cut cats when the mess was exposed?