Labour / NZ First Government

[iceman]

I just replayed it to get exact wording; Peters to interviewer, 'You're not running this program. I am.' And what was the strip of clear adhesive across his top lip all about? Did he cut himself shaving, or was it from several hours of holding the rim of his whisky glass there? Certainly something was tickling his liver.

This was the most arrogant behaviour I have ever seen from Winston and there is plenty to chose from. Absolutely disgraceful and constantly calling Jack TAME, James. This guy is not fit to be a Minister

[Bjauck]

If we can't call her Cindy, maybe Comrade Ardern is more apt?

That is actually quite interesting. When I was over in the UK, about 20 years ago, I actually saw an interview on tv in which one Labour MP refer to another Labour MP as Comrade. It was serious - there was no irony in his voice.

In all seriousness, has Ardern actually used "Comrade" when addressing other Labour Party people? Is "comrade" a term used by NZ Labour Party members?

[blackcap]

That is actually quite interesting. When I was over in the UK, about 20 years ago, I actually saw an interview on tv in which one Labour MP refer to another Labour MP as Comrade. It was serious - there was no irony in his voice.

In all seriousness, has Ardern actually used "Comrade" when addressing other Labour Party people? Is "comrade" a term used by NZ Labour Party members?

There does happen to be a video of her where she uses the term "Comrade" about 10 times in an 8 min speech. But that was overseas addressing some other crowd. She has been asked about that and said that her position is not much different from then. So very apt when describing Jacinda.

[Balance]

This was the most arrogant behaviour I have ever seen from Winston and there is plenty to chose from. Absolutely disgraceful and constantly calling Jack TAME, James. This guy is not fit to be a Minister

He is playing to his ‘fan’ and ‘voter’ base - taking on all and sundry on ‘their behalf‘, especially the arrogant and biased media.

Happens every election year but this time round, the fan base is noticeably thin.

[jonu]

That is actually quite interesting. When I was over in the UK, about 20 years ago, I actually saw an interview on tv in which one Labour MP refer to another Labour MP as Comrade. It was serious - there was no irony in his voice.

In all seriousness, has Ardern actually used "Comrade" when addressing other Labour Party people? Is "comrade" a term used by NZ Labour Party members?

I'm sure you're aware of the infamous "Comrade" video of the esteemed leader at a World Socialist conference when she was in her late twenties. I recall her sliding past it with an interviewer with a toothy grin and "that was a long time ago" (about 10 years at the time.) Impressions of people stick in the memory. It's how cartoonists are so effective.

In her haste to be liked by the cool crowd at the conference Comrade Cindy jumped right into the mosh pit (metaphor). She's been doing it ever since.

[fungus pudding]

There does happen to be a video of her where she uses the term "Comrade" about 10 times in an 8 min speech. But that was overseas addressing some other crowd. She has been asked about that and said that her position is not much different from then. So very apt when describing Jacinda.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9rsxFaq6Ig&t=79s

[dobby41]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9rsxFaq6Ig&t=79s

Interesting how people fixate on the word 'comrade'.
Look up the definition.
It is a word used in Communism but isn't owned by them.
It has been used widely before and after the communist heyday.
I think it says more about the people fixating on the word than Jacinda.
What sad people some are.

Anyone actually listen to what the speech was about?

[fungus pudding]

Interesting how people fixate on the word 'comrade'.
Look up the definition.
It is a word used in Communism but isn't owned by them.
It has been used widely before and after the communist heyday.
I think it says more about the people fixating on the word than Jacinda.
What sad people some are.

Anyone actually listen to what the speech was about?

The word has implications, as you well know. Words develop to have negative meanings attached. Comrade is one. Never under-estimate the efforts of the politically correct to demonise words. When I was young, Negro was acceptable. Our school had charity-money boxes with 'penny for the nigger' cast into the face. Shops sold nigger boy lollies. (black version of bright babies - think they're all called jelly babies these days) Same thing is now happening to 'Eskimo', and happened way-back to comrade. Noddy's friend, Golly-wog, became a no-no. 'Red-indian' will get you crucified. Anyway, next time you're out and about with friends or colleagues, just introduce them around as your comrades. It will get you a laugh among many strange looks.

[jonu]

Interesting how people fixate on the word 'comrade'.
Look up the definition.
It is a word used in Communism but isn't owned by them.
It has been used widely before and after the communist heyday.
I think it says more about the people fixating on the word than Jacinda.
What sad people some are.

Anyone actually listen to what the speech was about?

Hard work over the patronising tone, particularly the first 4-5 minutes. That hasn't changed. We get that at the 1pm briefings. She was very much playing to her audience...and fitting right in.

"Let's give it up for Comrade Cindy!" (I may taken a slight liberty with the quote )

[jonu]

The true cost of the Covid response comes into focus.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12362609

No money for other serious health issues. But no one wants to listen. They're all too scared of the invisible enemy.