Labour / NZ First Government

[moka]

Haha written by Andrea Vance of the "got done by Dunne fame".

It's OK for Jacinda Ardern to call Donald Trump names and giggle at Winston Peter's Simon Bridges impression (the accent mocking incident). The left can dish it out but they are unable to take it.

If Andrea thought about what you she wrote she should be able to figure out why people use it. Then she should have a think about why some think she is a sycophantic hack.

Interesting to see the tactics here used to dismiss the request not to call the Prime Minister Cindy.

1. Undermine the credibility of the writer of the article. Not sure what “get done by Dunne fame” refers to but it does distract from the issue raised.
2. Minimizing: “The left can dish it out but they are unable to take it.” There is humour and there is nastiness and bullying. For some of us this has crossed the line.
3. Indirect communication: “Andrea should be able to figure out why people use it.”
4. Blaming: She deserves to be called names because she is a “sycophantic hack” = insincere flatterer. Why do you think she is a “sycophantic hack?”

[moka]

What rubbish. Plenty of politicians have nicknames or abbreviated names. Bolger for example wanted to be called James but couldn't escape 'Jim'. So Cindy will stick with her. Nowhere near as bad as Piggy Muldoon.

What rubbish = denial that there is a problem, so nothing changes.

“Plenty of politicians have nicknames.” But not condescending and paternalistic names e.g. Billie Bolger, Johnnie Key, Billy English.

[jonu]

What rubbish = denial that there is a problem, so nothing changes.

“Plenty of politicians have nicknames.” But not condescending and paternalistic names e.g. Billie Bolger, Johnnie Key, Billy English.

Fungus backed up his claim with well reasoned logic. Moka....not so much.

[moka]

All hell breaking lose from Lefties about the PM referred to with a shorter version of her Cristian name while the same Lefties disgracefully call Collin’s husband an “ape”. Hypocrites

It is not the same Lefties. True, some Lefties are disgracefully calling Collin’s husband an “ape”, but they will not be the ones who are asking for the Prime Minister to be called by her actual name, which is the name she prefers.
Yes, there is name calling by both those on the left and on the right, but that does not make it okay. Violence and abuse are not okay. The first step towards violence is to dehumanize people by calling them names.

[westerly]

Not a problem - it’s future generations of NZers who will pay. Those of us who know how will benefit irrespective and take care of our own. Enjoy! 😊

And haven't those of you who know always done that? The main reason for most of the problems faced by the country today.

westerly

[dobby41]

Fungus backed up his claim with well reasoned logic. Moka....not so much.

Logic isn't required.
It is all in the reason for calling someone a name.
The reason balance refuses to call the PM by her name is that he is being derogatory. He using a Trump tactic - call someone a name to demean them.
Very childish really.

[dobby41]

This was the most arrogant behaviour I have ever seen from Winston and there is plenty to chose from. Absolutely disgraceful and constantly calling Jack TAME, James. This guy is not fit to be a Minister

I think the ballot box will sort out that problem - he is well passed his use by date.

[jonu]

Logic isn't required.
It is all in the reason for calling someone a name.
The reason balance refuses to call the PM by her name is that he is being derogatory. He using a Trump tactic - call someone a name to demean them.
Very childish really.

News Alert!!!! For all those sensitive, anguished wee Cindy lovers. She is no different to any other politician....with possibly two exceptions. She is more cynical than most, and she has an almost unique lack of ability to develop policy, let alone implement it.

When you think about it....she's not left with much.

She had better keep up the dental care or she may end up with this guy's oral health problems

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SN-5dTGFyNU

That should get a bite! How dare I?!

[fungus pudding]

And haven't those of you who know always done that? The main reason for most of the problems faced by the country today.

westerly

What? That some people look after themselves? Doesn't sound like a problem to me.

[fungus pudding]

News Alert!!!! For all those sensitive, anguished wee Cindy lovers. She is no different to any other politician....with possibly two exceptions. She is more cynical than most, and she has an almost unique lack of ability to develop policy, let alone implement it.

When you think about it....she's not left with much.

She had better keep up the dental care or she may end up with this guy's oral health problems

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SN-5dTGFyNU

That should get a bite! How dare I?!

That's a stand-in. Voice is too deep. Dead give-away.