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    Quote Originally Posted by Marilyn Munroe View Post

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    PS. When the Deputy Prime Minister gets his Russian free trade deal think of all the wonderful opportunities their will be to buy polonium novichok and surface to air missiles.
    Well, yes - but on the other hand - the Brits got their Polonium and the Novichok delivered for free, didn't they? Our government is even missing out on this opportunity, but at least are the Russians laughing about us as well:

    https://www.rt.com/news/422452-new-z...russian-spies/
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    The media is already seeing how incompetent and inexperienced this PM of ours is http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=12022383

    I will be surprised if this motley lot will last a term.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPeter View Post
    Well, yes - but on the other hand - the Brits got their Polonium and the Novichok delivered for free, didn't they? Our government is even missing out on this opportunity, but at least are the Russians laughing about us as well:

    https://www.rt.com/news/422452-new-z...russian-spies/
    Bush and Blair and the mythical weapons of mass destruction. The excuse to invade Iraq which has cost thousands of innocent lives.
    When it was all about oil. Ironically the US. became self sufficient with the discovery of fracking.
    Better to wait for the report from the OPCW before believing any thing the US or UK come out with

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    Quote Originally Posted by westerly View Post
    Bush and Blair and the mythical weapons of mass destruction. The excuse to invade Iraq which has cost thousands of innocent lives.
    When it was all about oil. Ironically the US. became self sufficient with the discovery of fracking.
    Better to wait for the report from the OPCW before believing any thing the US or UK come out with

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    True - you can't trust these buggers (wouldn't trust Theresa May further than I can throw an elephant ...) - can you, but the same is unfortunately true for your comrades Putin and Adern ; Sigh - it's a scary world out there , full of fake news - and the worst thing is, this last phrase is lifted from Donald's perls of wisdom (though better use the singular ... - perl);
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    Hey EZ ...has Jacinda just introduced a regressive tax

    I thought she said no new taxes ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Hey EZ ...has Jacinda just introduced a regressive tax

    I thought she said no new taxes ....
    Or 'proposing' a new tax on fuel! "The Government is proposing a fuel tax increase of between nine and 12 cents a litre to fund a raft of new land transport plans that focus on investing in road safety and rapid rail." --- on top of the 10cents Aucklanders will pay through Councils' money grab.

    That's close to 10% increase for dorklanders and 6% for everyone else who probably doesn't give a toss about Auckland roads, or their light rail.

    Ok, I get it that road safety is important, but just divert some of the billions in the aggressive state highway upgrades programme to do that, i.e. stretch it out a bit.

    As for funding light rail through a tax on fuel, no way! Punishing the vehicle owners with taxes that fund alternative transport, is what socialist governments do that pizz-off not only those who would have voted other than Labour, but also their own constituency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Hey EZ ...has Jacinda just introduced a regressive tax

    I thought she said no new taxes ....
    They're just sliding down into the 11 billion hole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Hey EZ ...has Jacinda just introduced a regressive tax

    I thought she said no new taxes ....
    Apparently it's not a new tax, as National were told they'd have to do the same, to fund their highways of questionable significance.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=12025268

    Reading through all this, I think the aims are clear, I agree with them, I'll be paying a bit more for petrol. Maybe I'll buy an electric car sometime, for short trips. It's a good idea for Aucklanders to pay a bit more for their own fuel, make them think about running cars vs light rail or buses, bikes or walking. It's a great idea to spend some of the levy income on rail, public transport, or shipping. Plus the spending on the new motorways will drop back by 11%.

    I have no doubt that this has been some kind of a gravy train for heavy transport operators. I know of one wheeler-dealer guy that started up a trucking firm a couple of years ago, he'd never remotely been in the business before, bought some older dump trucks, trained up some people and now they're moving dirt around from the local motorway jobs. More work than they can poke a stick at, it's just too easy, and you can see countless diggers being used around the place too. I suspect that the people owning that sort of gear have been lobbying the previous National govt for this work for a few years. Labour is saying that this particular work might drop back a bit in future.

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    Well there goes most if not all of the low paid workers 75 cents an hour wage increase

    Been a few studies over the years that conclude that once petrol gets close to $2.20 litre overall retail sales start to suffer
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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Well there goes most if not all of the low paid workers 75 cents an hour wage increase

    Been a few studies over the years that conclude that once petrol gets close to $2.20 litre overall retail sales start to suffer
    This article and the comments show that we're probably not that different from Australia in total costs to run a car on the road.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/985...r-in-australia

    I agree that once a 50L tankful costs over $100, I'm thinking about it. Must be tough for the oil companies to hand over all those levies they've collected for the govt, it would have to be a big cheque.

    Would more fuel levies be a regressive tax? Maybe not, big road users with big rigs would pay a fair bit of it, and those lacking funds are already limiting their vehicle use. Those queues at petrol stations are often worsened with people dutifully trudging inside to get a pump authorised, and then they're only buying $10 worth.

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