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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Thats true fp but its extreme this time imo, the underfunding, run down excessively by previous govt.
    Seems to me like a cult of fear from the top down in some of these organisations/ govt depts, health being the sector im thinking. IF Coleman really didn't know , why not? Everyone is under pressure to keep costs down and effiencies up but on minimal funding, everyone is covering their butts, so no one risks being a messenger and reporting things that are wrong. This goes all the way down to the front line staff, nurses who it turns out are being bullied by doctors , themselves under pressure and so on. This top down autocratic system needs changing and at the same time funding found for the health system.
    Local managers too busy thinking they owned an Auckland Interantional Airport (AIA) and spending public money on retail space: https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/hea...emore-hospital

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    A test for open justice. To get Clare Currans email via subpoena a majority of the Select Committee is required. Thats 6 votes. 5 already there with National (Labour will be ruing giving away the extra Select Committee seats the day Parliament sat) and just one vote for transparent justice from either Labour, Greens or NZ First. If there is nothing to hide then none of these three parties should have any difficulty giving the required vote.

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    Astounding. Labour decide to end off shore oil exploration without setting up a committee first!

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    Quote Originally Posted by minimoke View Post
    Astounding. Labour decide to end off shore oil exploration without setting up a committee first!
    I'm afraid this is yet another policy that has not been thought through nor the consequences understood. It has been clear since Jacinda said global warming was the "nuclear moment" of her generation that this was going to happen. But now that we have joined Belize and France in banning offshore drilling, I'm sure global warming will slow down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    I'm afraid this is yet another policy that has not been thought through nor the consequences understood. It has been clear since Jacinda said global warming was the "nuclear moment" of her generation that this was going to happen. But now that we have joined Belize and France in banning offshore drilling, I'm sure global warming will slow down.
    Our nuclear moment is interesting. Yes its true today we do not have any nuclear energy nor nuclear warheads. But then again we never would have.

    In the meantime there remains a global arsenal of 15,000 nuclear warheads in USA, UK, France, Russia, China, India, Pakistan, North Korea and Israel.

    If she thinks David Langes nuclear debate in 1985 influenced the limitation treaties (mainly affecting USA and Russia) since 1991 then shes dreaming. USA alone is set to spent $1T modenrising it nuclear weapons to 2040. And there are currently over 50 nuclear reactors being built.

    So just what was our "nuclear moment"?

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    Gotta love the response from NZO:

    Environmental effect of ban on new exploration
    The ban on new exploration may mean carbon emissions in New Zealand and
    globally will be higher for longer.

    This is because petroleum resources in New Zealand are likely to be gas and
    gas condensate. Gas is a lower carbon alternative to coal for uses such as
    industrial heating, where no economically viable renewable alternative
    exists.

    If new gas supplies are unavailable then coal will continue to be used
    domestically for purposes such as dairy drying plants. Globally,
    ethically-produced natural gas from New Zealand produces far fewer emissions
    than alternatives such as Canadian tar sands or Venezuelan bitumen.
    Therefore, if natural gas from New Zealand is not permitted then the world
    will use more high-carbon fuel sources."

    Jacinda et al really are pathetically stupid.

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    [QUOTE=minimoke;710936][/
    So just what was our "nuclear moment"?QUOTE]

    Primarily it was a lot of damage to the NZ economy just like Jacindas nuclear moment will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackcap View Post
    Gotta love the response from NZO:

    Gas is a lower carbon alternative to coal for uses such as
    industrial heating, where no economically viable renewable alternative
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    I'm not so sure about that. The biggest local industrial heater I can think of locally is Tiwai Point. And they have their own hydro system

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    Apparently we have 10 years of current known gas reserves left. What happens after that? 7,000 local jobs in Taranaki gone. $000m's in royalties gone. Absolutely zero change to global CO2 emissions.

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    Mr Speaker my question is to the Prime Minister and asks; If there is a surge in electricity demand and gas has run out will she support nuclear energy?

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