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    Question 2018 Stock Picking Contest

    Just to say that though I took over this years contest, I have no intention of being involved in the organisation of, administration of, or execution of a contest for 2018.

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    Was it a bit tough Mr. Tiger?

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    who is 'they'?

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    Thanks PTiger for taking this on when ? went M I A. Maybe we could keep track of our own entries next year.

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    Smile Highly Variable will be an understatement

    Quote Originally Posted by SylvesterCat View Post
    Was it a bit tough Mr. Tiger?
    For the Puddy Tat:

    No.

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    who is 'they'?
    For the local branch of the grammar police:

    Obviously I meant they're or maybe their or could be there?

    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Thanks PTiger for taking this on when ? went M I A. Maybe we could keep track of our own entries next year.
    For the Yucca brevifolia:

    The ? is klid.


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    Maybe we could do a monthly update or something, rather than live daily updates.

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    Very kind of the Puddy Tat to take over this years one considering he has expended considerable efforts with wearing his paw pads out running previous ones.
    The resident stripy one deserves a nice break basking in the sun.
    Maybe those interested in participating in 2018 could DIY and simply post their selections and update their own performance quarterly ?
    Last edited by Beagle; 16-11-2017 at 09:58 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeremyALD View Post
    Maybe we could do a monthly update or something, rather than live daily updates.
    I'm quite happy to help co-ordinate if need be...perhaps with the bigger feline's (ie, tiger's) support. Question for PT though - what tool do you use to store the picks, and update prices/dividends?
    If its a live feed (or even semi-automated) and updated monthly, feel sure I could keep up with this...

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    Arrow You need data from somewhere and a means of turning into information

    Quote Originally Posted by SylvesterCat View Post
    I'm quite happy to help co-ordinate if need be...perhaps with the bigger feline's (ie, tiger's) support. Question for PT though - what tool do you use to store the picks, and update prices/dividends?
    If its a live feed (or even semi-automated) and updated monthly, feel sure I could keep up with this...
    Between mid December and the end of next August I will be permanently on the road and not offering support.

    I download & parse end of day & dividend data from my data suppliers using php running in cron jobs on the papertiger.asia web-server and these store the results in a MySQL database, which also contains tables of entrants and their choices.
    A further php cron job uses all this data to create the results tables which are then served as a web-page on demand by yet another php script.

    When it works as it should, it is great and no hassle;
    When it goes wrong, it really goes wrong!


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    Ok PT, all good.
    Will do a quick bit of research around how your process works, and see if I can make it nice n easy for me to run.
    Will see if I can stand something up by the end of 1st week December (or at least let you know if I can't)

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    Just wanted to say a BIG thank you and appreciation to Paper Tiger for rescuing this competition. Also a big thanks to Kild for his/her excellent work.

    I hope a way can be found for this competition to continue and can't help thinking an approach NZX or NZSA for sponsorship or assistance to run the comp could be worthwhile. Surely it has the potential to be a good promotional tool for them?

    If I had the skills I would be in, but as I don't I hope Sylvester Cat's kind offer comes good.

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    Hi all...I think I can make this work. I've built something that scrapes Yahoo Finance, so we should be able to get daily updates.
    Will try to render it via a protected Excel sheet or webpage somehow, so you can query your own results, without being able to delete/modify data!

    But just want to get some views on what the rules should be, so we're all on the same page.
    1) Rights Issues - what happens here? Do we account for the investment in rights (ie, reduction of capital), but then account for gains afterwards?
    2) Dividends - all based off ex date?
    3) If a stock is not traded on a particular day, do we take the last traded price as the price?
    4) Your picks - shall we say, 5 stocks with a weighting of your choosing? or do we go more than that?
    5) Do we include or exclude ETF's?

    Bound to be other issues, lets throw them out there and see what the consensus is.
    Thoughts very welcome.

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    Hi Sylvestor

    Just thought i'd add an FYI. Sharesight has a number of API's that allow access to portfolio information. A portfolio could be set up that includes every stock. Far cheaper than NZX feeds. The data returned is arguably richer and more robust than a page scrape. However, a portfolio of that size not free of course - $25 / month - for sure, a page scrape is probably sufficient for the needs of this comp.


    Disc: no affiliation to Sharesight, just sharing some info
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    Quote Originally Posted by causecelebre View Post
    Hi Sylvestor

    Just thought i'd add an FYI. Sharesight has a number of API's that allow access to portfolio information. A portfolio could be set up that includes every stock. Far cheaper than NZX feeds. The data returned is arguably richer and more robust than a page scrape. However, a portfolio of that size not free of course - $25 / month - for sure, a page scrape is probably sufficient for the needs of this comp.


    Disc: no affiliation to Sharesight, just sharing some info
    Maybe Sharesight would be interested in sponsoring the comp and could come up with something to facilitate this ??? ...They must have a fair few customers on here ....

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    Hi, Sharesight here - We'll be running our own stock picking comp again in 2018 - (as we did in 2017 https://www.sharesight.com/blog/2017...g-competition/ ) - we'll announce our own competition for next year in the coming weeks.

    But we can certainly look at helping you out with your own comp here - Send our team an email at marketing@sharesight.com with what you'd like to do, and we'll see what we can do.
    Last edited by Sharesight; 23-11-2017 at 12:57 PM. Reason: typo - fat fingers

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