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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    And what a good deed for our country, another reason for people to come here, morals, decency humanity, accountability.

    Those things mean nothing to you, i realise that. its infinitely better than ploughing alot more into a hole in the ground owned by liars in the mistaken belief that you will enrich yourself with gold. Thats the sorta totally selfish thing some can only relate too; being selfless is something you just cant comprehende.Yep.
    Look up hypocrisy, cynical & blatant politicking.

    This is really really really rich coming from you who think that Roy Green's suicide is not to be discussed but

    it's okay for Comrade Cindy & Andrew Little & Winston Peters to prey on the deaths of 29 miners to get votes.

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/122...ved-explosions

    Another year, another theory to try and keep the grief gravy train going - as if $50m down the hole with zero-recovery result is not enough.

    Think of what $50m could have done for the families of the dead miners rather than the political hypocrisy of extracting votes from their grief.

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/122...by-specialists

    More theories and scenarios to prolong the gravy train.

    Whatever happened to the ‘international experts’ who professed that the mine could be safely entered and the bodies of the miners could be recovered?

    These experts should front up Side by side with Andrew Little, Winston Peters & Cindy with the families to explain why $50m has been spent with bigger all meaningful results.

    They will not of course - they are busy having new ways to charge for their expertise.

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    They got the loader out Balance ...in good nick they say

    Might need to spend a few more millions to solve the mystery
    “What the wise man does in the beginning, the fool does in the end”

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    They got the loader out Balance ...in good nick they say

    Might need to spend a few more millions to solve the mystery
    Call it the $50m loader - which of course will be played up as a major piece of evidence requiring further substantiation - and an extra $25m therefore to go beyond the rockfall to gather more evidence?

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    https://www.newsroom.co.nz/the-pike-...-power-of-hope

    Another side to the $50m+ cost to ‘bring the boys’ back :

    Marion Curtin has spoken out reluctantly and occasionally – mainly, she says, to correct the record. The Christchurch retiree, whose son Richard Holling died at Pike River, is appalled re-entry went ahead.

    “To me it was politically motivated before the previous election,” she says. “I objected to my son’s death being used as a political ploy.”

    She backs the National Government’s “insight and knowledge” about Pike River. Having endured the Canterbury earthquakes, she says the millions of dollars spent on re-entry could have had a better use.

    “I have never been shown or told anything that justified re-entry.”

    Curtin can’t wrap her head around the idea of justice for Pike River. “Justice for what? There was an explosion in a coal mine.” It was an accident, she says, and nobody knows for sure what happened. Everybody involved, even company management, has suffered, she says.

    “If anyone can prove to me that somebody in that mine at the time lit a match or did something that was blatantly stupid that caused the explosion then I would feel that it was a deliberate act. But if it was, that person has already paid with their life so what else do you want?”

    She won’t be marking the 10th anniversary: “I just don’t see the point.” Her family thinks of Richard’s life, not his death. That’s why they all eat boysenberry cheesecake, his favourite food, on his birthday – November 7.

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    Is Scruff Little still Minister in charge of Exploring a Defunct Mine at huge cost, or has he been deposed
    & shunted to pew warm for other things ?
    ... the fine art of sniffing out debits & credits hidden under the carpet can pay dividends ...

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    After seeing last nights docu on Pike River I think that the whole sorry saga should be reinvestigated , what a travesty of justice it is that this has been swept under the carpet and it almost as if pardons have been given to the fish heads who ran the place and the miners were treated with contempt,

    SORRY
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    SORRY SITUATION.

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    If you read the PRC & NZOG threads* leading to the explosion, it was already very very very clear to those of us who followed the shenanigans that the mine was being grossly mismanaged and an accident waiting to happen. This was confirmed by the findings of the Royal Commission of Inquiry.

    As to whether incompetence constitute a crime, negligence and deliberate attempts to circumvent safety requirements will have to be proven before anyone can be charged. Remember that the mine was inspected as it was developed and signed off by mine inspectors. Going to be some finger pointing going on for a long long time.

    So there is a very high bar to cross and much as I am angered by the incompentence & gross mismanagement of the directors and management of PRC & NZOG, I believe the Crown Proscecutor Office had comprehensively reviewed the evidence from the Royal Commission & believed it would be futile to bring criminal charges.

    We all know what this ‘recovery’ program is all about - political hogwash.

    *Have a read :

    https://www.sharetrader.co.nz/showth...&highlight=prc
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    https://nzagainstthecurrent.blogspot...ike-river.html

    This is Andrew Little - DEFENDING the management and operation of Pike River Mine after it blew up.

    Excerpt :

    "EPMU National secretary Andrew Little (now a Labour MP) told the New Zealand Herald on November 22 2010 that there was "nothing unusual about Pike River or this mine that we’ve been particularly concerned about".

    He then appeared on TVNZ's Close Up to again defend PRC management.

    He told Close Up that underground mining was inherently unsafe and the risk of gas explosions, particularly on the West Coast, was high.

    While the industry was aware of the risks and took the necessary precautions, unfortunately these kinds of incidents still happened, he argued.

    On November 26, 2010 the Dominion Post ran an article that denounced 'wild' rumours that the mine was not safe. It declared that "Any suggestion of obvious or known safety lapses does not find traction with unionised staff or union leader Andrew Little."
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