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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Great stuff . wheres the pedestal?"
    that's a good idea. Aspirational role models

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    Quote Originally Posted by minimoke View Post
    that's a good idea. Aspirational role models
    Holier than thou.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 777 View Post
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    The price of property in Sydney, London, Vancouver and many other cities have gone through the roof and the left blame the National Government. It is all their fault is the cry.
    Yes , you've got it 777; you can see how transparently shallow national are blaming the Govt for current business sentiment, so weak and ineffectual, gormless bottom feeding .

    We can hold the previous govt responsible for our housing crisis though as they did nothing, no they didn't , they reduced public housing as fast as they could another easy short good look low hung fruit fix. Had to stop and it did with a change in govt. Empathy, compassion, they still dont know the meaning of those words; materialism is about as close as they can get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Yes , you've got it 777; you can see how transparently shallow national are blaming the Govt for current business sentiment, so weak and ineffectual, gormless bottom feeding .
    Just ask yourself how many strikes there have been so far. They are the lucky ones. In a few years there will be less jobs to strike in

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
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    We can hold the previous govt responsible for our housing crisis though as they did nothing, no they didn't , they reduced public housing as fast as they could another easy short good look low hung fruit fix. Had to stop and it did with a change in govt.......
    There was a lot of new build social housing done and planned under the last government. Some of it is now coming on stream. Instead of cheap and ignorant shots about selling off state houses suggest you take a slightly less shallow look at the large amount of publicly available information, such as -

    - numbers sold to specialist social housing providers, at significantly less than market rates and still qualifying for income related rents.
    - redevelopment of low density housing into medium density, including end of life places not economic to renovate.
    - lack of demand for some locations and sizes. Often made available to first home buyers on favourable conditions.
    - major demographic changes in the state house waiting list. Majority are now adults with no children, mostly single people, where it used to be families. This means a disconnect between supply and demand until many new smaller units are built.
    - the sharp increase in applications for state housing under this government
    - the numbers of state tenants taken to the Tenancy Tribunal for rent arrears, damage, abandonment. Hint - there are thousands and some take a very long time to bring up to reletting standard
    - a hostile environment for private landlords who are increasing rents to meet new compliance (and a lot more coming) or exiting the business altogether.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minimoke View Post
    Investing in enabling women to become mothers when they are fit and able and financially secure income earners within families is how we address child poverdy"

    "Improving the decision making abilities of these women bring benefits to them, their families and broader society".

    Fixed - not that hard really.
    I often wonder why the men involved are not made to take more responsibility for the children they fathered. Probably accounts for the exodus to Austalia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by artemis View Post
    There was a lot of new build social housing done and planned under the last government. Some of it is now coming on stream. Instead of cheap and ignorant shots about selling off state houses suggest you take a slightly less shallow look at the large amount of publicly available information, such as -

    - numbers sold to specialist social housing providers, at significantly less than market rates and still qualifying for income related rents.
    - redevelopment of low density housing into medium density, including end of life places not economic to renovate.
    - lack of demand for some locations and sizes. Often made available to first home buyers on favourable conditions.
    - major demographic changes in the state house waiting list. Majority are now adults with no children, mostly single people, where it used to be families. This means a disconnect between supply and demand until many new smaller units are built.
    - the sharp increase in applications for state housing under this government
    - the numbers of state tenants taken to the Tenancy Tribunal for rent arrears, damage, abandonment. Hint - there are thousands and some take a very long time to bring up to reletting standard
    - a hostile environment for private landlords who are increasing rents to meet new compliance (and a lot more coming) or exiting the business altogether.
    Another good informative post.
    The Coalition made a major blunder by not continuing the responsible and targeted way to deal with the most vulnerable in our society that Bill English had worked on for many years and had introduced. By all accounts it was working well in delivering real benefits and opportunities to those most in need. The current approach of spraying money in all directions is a costly mistake and will deliver no real benefits to anyone and come at a great cost to taxpayers.

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    The bottom line is national stuffed up big time, no matter what you highlight it was woefully inadequate.
    As well as national desperately blaming labour for business sentiment, its trump like say it enough and it becomes gospel bull dust.

    Concern about the govt's industrial relations changes is a major worry for business, but it will be sorted, addressed.

    Rescuing the TPPA agreement, pressing ahead with a strong trade agenda, putting re $1 billion into dairy farming (MBovis), $Billions into the provincial growth fund, R&D tax credits, Green investment fund supporting sustainable technology. ALL BUSINESS FRIENDLY conveniently overlooked in the W of Discontent spin transparently and uber negatively being pushed by a struggling national party whose convention was a forgettable conservative wet retro prog rock drum session.







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    Blow me down, first day back and we have a kiwi act with trump, another fillip for business travellers to USA


    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/ind...ng-of-kiwi-act

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    Maybe something to do with his catchup with Liddell.
    "Winston Peters let something slip at one of his last outings as acting prime minister; he'd had a conversation with one of US President Donald Trump's right hand men, Chris Liddell, where he pushed the case for New Zealand in relation to steel tariffs." stuff

    Winston has excelled at his 6 weeks at the helm .
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