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    Quote Originally Posted by stoploss View Post
    like a raise in benefits ? no wait the Labour govt could never deliver that .... it took National....
    Or reduce tax's REGO costs etc ... as Cullen use to say he was far better at spending our money than we were.. One must remember Labour was against TAX cuts ...and firming believes in increasing them to bribe their voting base
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    Tax cuts just a nefarious attempt to hold power at all costs, corrupt power mongering and the last low fruit pick attempt to get back in after years of rolling down their sleeves and underfunding, neglecting, spinning "everything is beautiful" yeah right ,double brown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Tax cuts just a nefarious attempt to hold power at all costs, corrupt power mongering and the last low fruit pick attempt to get back in after years of rolling down their sleeves and underfunding, neglecting, spinning "everything is beautiful" yeah right ,double brown.
    What utter rubbish.

    The change in tax brackets is well overdue and National did it with the bottom two brackets only. This would help appease the attitudes of the left who seem to think that people vote National if they are high earners and Labour if not. I am sure if Labour was to change the brackets in their next term you would hail it as forward thinking. Mind you they won't get another term.

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    ‘Nefarious’ a good word, esp in context of nefarious attempt. To hold power

    Must admit I did a lookup
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    Thats it a wicked or criminal action like anything to keep power, and then be knighted lol how sick is that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Tax cuts just a nefarious attempt to hold power at all costs, corrupt power mongering
    Unlike WFF and interest free student loans introduced on the eve of an election when facing losing in the polls !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    Unlike WWF and interest free student loans introduced on the eve of an election when facing losing in the polls !!
    Student loans was the classic all-time electoral bribe. Immediately made many people substantially better off, reduced incentive to pay it back and little chance of a govt back-tracking due to the high risk of political suicide. Costing the country billions......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sideshow Bob View Post
    Student loans was the classic all-time electoral bribe. Immediately made many people substantially better off, reduced incentive to pay it back and little chance of a govt back-tracking due to the high risk of political suicide. Costing the country billions......
    They sure were and now billions of dollars unrecoverable with graduated students overseas with no forwarding address and laughing all the way to their Swiss bank but I must admit that National did little to help with the growing tidal epidemic of meth and the mental health problems that's creating.
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    Sad but National are becoming mini me trumpettes down under. Say something often enough and it becomes gospel is the tactic.
    The Employment Relations Amendment bill is winding the clock back to the grim days of the 1970's, what an absolute lie. The winter of discontent ,a spray and walk away falsehood.
    National are dragging this country into the gutter by hook or by crook. It won't work,The coalition is working at inclusiveness and collaboration and discussion, with a few learners mistakes and there will be more , par for the course. Negativity and good old down ramping is Nationals dark art. Who wants to be a part of that.Are national blue, green, blue/green, turquoise or plain vanilla wadeable knightshade black?
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    http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA180...alth-pilot.htm That's just great, (sarcasm intended)...why don't they just throw these people under a bus while they're at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
    http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA180...alth-pilot.htm That's just great, (sarcasm intended)...why don't they just throw these people under a bus while they're at it.
    This gone and cochlear implants expansion gone. Not a lot of money involved so I wonder about the reasoning. Not many votes to lose as numbers are fairly small? The government thinks the initiatives won't wash their face? Trouble at Mr Robertson's mill? What?

    I see Mr Bridges on the telly referred to more 'stealth cuts' on the way. With a large and experienced opposition they might not stay too stealthy.

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    Bridges is the true spray and walk away spin man. wonder who his spin agency is, crosby/textor? Or a Mr joyce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Bridges is the true spray and walk away spin man. wonder who his spin agency is, crosby/textor? Or a Mr joyce.
    Well that was a valuable addition to the discussion.

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    Thanks , appreciate that. I guess Bridges honeymoon period is well over, must feel like the Sword of Damocles is hanging over him, with him not making any dents just spraying out fiction as fact. Judith will be hovering too with that cheshire cat smile and then the Prime Minister will be back before long, maybe if someone sent him some berroca?
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    Quote Originally Posted by artemis View Post
    This gone and cochlear implants expansion gone. Not a lot of money involved so I wonder about the reasoning. Not many votes to lose as numbers are fairly small? The government thinks the initiatives won't wash their face? Trouble at Mr Robertson's mill? What?

    I see Mr Bridges on the telly referred to more 'stealth cuts' on the way. With a large and experienced opposition they might not stay too stealthy.
    Yeap just throw all those people under the bus too. Plenty of money to pay Winston Peter's $900 bribe for his pet Island projects and Shane Jones pet regional development fund of $1b and while we're at it another $2.3b for Orion replacements. No extra money to help the tens of thousands of P addicts and mental health needy though. Plenty of "logic" with this new Government eh.
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