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    The Deep State Is Real

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/09/05/deep-state-real-cia-fbi-intelligence-215537/

    Beneath the politics of convenience is the reality that a large segment of the U.S. government really does operate without much transparency or public scrutiny, and has abused its awesome powers in myriad ways. And sometimes the government bureaucracy really does exercise power over the commander in chief: Obama felt that the military pressured him into sending more troops to Afghanistan than he had wanted, while an inexperienced George W. Bush was arguably led to war by a bipartisan cadre of national security insiders who had long wanted to take out Saddam Hussein.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moka View Post
    The deep state is not Soros and Co.

    The meaning of the deep state changed under Trump to encompass anyone who was working against him.

    A deep state refers to a clandestine network of individuals within a government, often comprising unelected officials and various institutional entities, that operates independently of elected leadership. This term is typically associated with the notion that these actors exert significant influence over state policy and governance, often in pursuit of their own agendas, which may conflict with the democratic process.

    The deep state in the US is a network of federal employees, particularly those who work for the FBI and CIA, that collaborates with prominent figures from the financial and business sectors to wield power alongside or inside the democratically elected US government.

    The term “deep state” was first used in the 1990s to refer to what was thought to be a long-standing deep state in Turkey. However, the phrase was later used to describe the US government, particularly under the Obama administration.

    The term deep state gained widespread acceptance under Trump's presidency, as he alleged that the purported “deep state” was working against him and the policies of his government.
    Deep State, The Swamp. Grey areas indeed. No doubt stronger forces than Joe are at the helm.

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