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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    I would give more credit to Trump himself than Biden for Donald's downfall.
    Correct. I think the results from the midterm election show loud and clear that most people have had enough of Trump's antics.

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    Though republicans outperformed expectations in 2020 .

    Leave a sh*tstorm in most areas.. still be competitive.
    Last edited by Panda-NZ-; 11-11-2022 at 08:18 AM.

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    Tim Ryan now that Ohio tossed him out for a trumpist loser should become the vice president.

    A Biden-ryan ticket at least in 2024 will secure the presidency for democrats even if Biden dies (which is a risk today unfortunately).
    Last edited by Panda-NZ-; 11-11-2022 at 08:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    I would give more credit to Trump himself than Biden for Donald's downfall.

    A thoughtful piece by CNN's political analyst Julian Zelizer, on Biden, titled "The most underestimated President in recent history".
    Might modify your opinion.


    In 2020 Trump not only won more votes than he did in 2016, but also expanded his base.
    Since WW2 most Presidents have successfully won re-election.
    But despite this, Trump was unable to stave off Biden who not only defeated a group of younger & more exciting candidates in the 2020 Democratic Primaries, but at the age of 76 became the oldest person to become President.
    That's no trivial achievement.

    Since loosing to Biden in 2020, & The Capital Insurrection, Trump's been the architect of his own downfall esp it appears in the mid-terms.
    Whereas Rupert Murdoch's media empire (Fox News, Wall Street Journal, New York Post, The Australian, The Times) heavily backed Trump in 2020 & until the recent mid-terms, it seems he's now seen as yesterday's man & Murdoch's backing Florida's Ron DeSantis as the new leader for the Republicans.


    https://edition.cnn.com/2022/11/10/o...zer/index.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Skies View Post
    A thoughtful piece by CNN's political analyst Julian Zelizer, on Biden, titled "The most underestimated President in recent history".
    Might modify your opinion.


    In 2020 Trump not only won more votes than he did in 2016, but also expanded his base.
    Since WW2 most Presidents have successfully won re-election.
    But despite this, Trump was unable to stave off Biden who not only defeated a group of younger & more exciting candidates in the 2020 Democratic Primaries, but at the age of 76 became the oldest person to become President.
    That's no trivial achievement.

    Since loosing to Biden in 2020, & The Capital Insurrection, Trump's been the architect of his own downfall esp it appears in the mid-terms.
    Whereas Rupert Murdoch's media empire (Fox News, Wall Street Journal, New York Post, The Australian, The Times) heavily backed Trump in 2020 & until the recent mid-terms, it seems he's now seen as yesterday's man & Murdoch's backing Florida's Ron DeSantis as the new leader for the Republicans.


    https://edition.cnn.com/2022/11/10/o...zer/index.html
    Defeating someone as polarising and loathed as Trump is hardly an accomplishment. I've said it repeatedly; the fact that the US system can come up with such terrible nominees from both sides shows something is rotten in the state of Denmark. Most likely far too much corporate influence on both sides.

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    You lot are in fairy tale lands LOL... what a laugh.... you guys, its just pip squeak chatter .... legit...
    ....just tell me one thing biden did good in his term?

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    The difference between President's Biden & Putin is Biden's opponent is not yet in jail.

    Boop boop de do
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marilyn Munroe View Post
    The difference between President's Biden & Putin is Biden's opponent is not yet in jail.

    Boop boop de do
    Marilyn
    They are certainly using all the dirty tricks in the book to make it so though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crypto Crude View Post
    You lot are in fairy tale lands LOL... what a laugh.... you guys, its just pip squeak chatter .... legit...
    ....just tell me one thing biden did good in his term?
    Beat Trump at the polls.

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