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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3LkVH3Zxic Bought the top spec Calais V brand new a year ago. For me, being a bit of a car "nut" this is a real exercise in consumer restraint lol

    Loads of current technology like heads-up, adaptive cruise, matrix LED's e.t.c.e.t.c. watch the video. 9 speed auto is a real peach, GM apparently have over 60 patents on this new designed box and its a real honey. 315 horsepower, its no rocket ship but its pretty quick. Torque vectoring works a treat and with AWD it s a sweet handling bit of kit and a LOT of car for $50K.

    BMW M5 is a fair bit bigger than an E63 AMG in my opinion, certainly quite a bit wider. Huge respect for Audi RS6 and RS7, superb bits of kit. Go for the plus version and get 445 kw's, lots of fun !!

    Yeah, look I have to say I think the BMW M5 with the vast majority of its 5 year warranty left is a LOT of supercar for $140K with everyday practicality mixed in.

    I think for me right at the minute, (after past indulgences), its good for me to take a period of time driving a relatively ordinary car...that's what I am telling myself anyway but it would probably only take one test drive and it would be like...where do I sign lol

    I trying my best to stay away from BMW, Audi or Mercedes-Benz dealers...I'd be no more self controlled than a kid in a candy shop lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
    I'd wager plenty of motoring enthusiasts would see it very, very differently.
    standard 75 k car, net worth 7.5 million, can count most base line drivers of euro's in NZ i see do not have 7.5 million net worth.

    Part owing a car dealership in the US has satisfied me finally for playing with 4w toys, given it is a highly profitable share placement and i do think it has reduced my privately consumption markedly...

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    I had a Calais before - nice car. Even then there was some stupidly high repair costs for relatively minor things. I am just straight dirty on Holden now after my wife's Captiva experience though. Would not touch them with a barge pole - rational or not.

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    Well I finally got my Benz sorted which had started missing when hitting the open road. Did quite a bit of reading and everything was pointing to the plugs and coils. Took into a mechanic close to work, told them to check the plugs + coils and they told me it was the rocker cover so after replacing that and the gasket the following weekend heading to cricket it started missing again. Took it back and asked them if they'd checked the plugs/coils, they said they'd take another look and then told me they 'think' it's the timing chain and replacing it would be $2500 +.

    Thought this was rather strange as the chain should last a lot longer and there was no noise you could hear so took it to another mechanic close to home, straight away they said it's probably the plugs, got them to replace the coil on the missing cylinder as well. They couldn't believe someone was even suggesting to do the chain. Took it out to Waiuku in the weekend and she's flying again.

    Really happy to get it sorted and can now give it heaps, but pretty pissed about said former mechanic, who has now lost all future business from our 2 cars. You gotta watch out for crooks everywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tipsy View Post
    Well I finally got my Benz sorted which had started missing when hitting the open road. Did quite a bit of reading and everything was pointing to the plugs and coils. Took into a mechanic close to work, told them to check the plugs + coils and they told me it was the rocker cover so after replacing that and the gasket the following weekend heading to cricket it started missing again. Took it back and asked them if they'd checked the plugs/coils, they said they'd take another look and then told me they 'think' it's the timing chain and replacing it would be $2500 +.

    Thought this was rather strange as the chain should last a lot longer and there was no noise you could hear so took it to another mechanic close to home, straight away they said it's probably the plugs, got them to replace the coil on the missing cylinder as well. They couldn't believe someone was even suggesting to do the chain. Took it out to Waiuku in the weekend and she's flying again.

    Really happy to get it sorted and can now give it heaps, but pretty pissed about said former mechanic, who has now lost all future business from our 2 cars. You gotta watch out for crooks everywhere.
    European repairs can be very frightening. My cousin bought a 2nd hand Fiat Ducato van (2002 model) 2 years ago and drove it from Auckland to Dunedin to where he lives. My 1st advice to him was to seek a european auto mechanic because they're not straight forward to do in repairs. As a precautionary measure he decided to get a tune up on the van at a nearby garage. They came back saying it could do with a new radiator, new timing belt, and new clutch. The van sat in the garage for over 3 weeks and the response was they were having difficulty getting the timing belt on. Anyways he was pushing them to get it done as he had a wedding to go to in New Plymouth. So when I met up with him at the Picton ferry I asked how was the van going? He said the clutch seems a bit spongy and lacked power on the high RPM range. A week later on his way back 'BANG!' - he txt msg saying he was stranded about an hours away from Whanganui. The garage shop there did a head removal and took photos which appeared the valve stem eventually bored a hole in the piston. Faulting improper timing belt installation. He took the documents back to the garage in Dunedin and they wouldn't have a bar of soap of it... total cost of his van adventure (bought off TradeMe + air flight to Alk, garage repairs) $22K.

    Just like share market investors, not all mechanics are the same and the shoddy mechanics will not own up their mistakes, just like fund managers that underperform the market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBQ View Post
    European repairs can be very frightening. My cousin bought a 2nd hand Fiat Ducato van (2002 model) 2 years ago and drove it from Auckland to Dunedin to where he lives. My 1st advice to him was to seek a european auto mechanic because they're not straight forward to do in repairs. As a precautionary measure he decided to get a tune up on the van at a nearby garage. They came back saying it could do with a new radiator, new timing belt, and new clutch. The van sat in the garage for over 3 weeks and the response was they were having difficulty getting the timing belt on. Anyways he was pushing them to get it done as he had a wedding to go to in New Plymouth. So when I met up with him at the Picton ferry I asked how was the van going? He said the clutch seems a bit spongy and lacked power on the high RPM range. A week later on his way back 'BANG!' - he txt msg saying he was stranded about an hours away from Whanganui. The garage shop there did a head removal and took photos which appeared the valve stem eventually bored a hole in the piston. Faulting improper timing belt installation. He took the documents back to the garage in Dunedin and they wouldn't have a bar of soap of it... total cost of his van adventure (bought off TradeMe + air flight to Alk, garage repairs) $22K.

    Just like share market investors, not all mechanics are the same and the shoddy mechanics will not own up their mistakes, just like fund managers that underperform the market.
    They same can be said for any car brand. Eg we had a Holden Captiva, started giving off weird fault codes. My mechanic (I used two of them in the end) neither knew what was really wrong and just advised to get X part for $1K from Holden to fix the error. Did that and the issues weren't fixed. Turns out the entire transmission was buggered after 50K kms!! And to top it off I needed another $1K part to finally get rid of the codes. All up around $7K later it was fixed. This was a 2012 HOLDEN CAPTIVA with 50k kms. I listed it on Trademe immediately and got rid of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Entrep View Post
    They same can be said for any car brand. Eg we had a Holden Captiva, started giving off weird fault codes. My mechanic (I used two of them in the end) neither knew what was really wrong and just advised to get X part for $1K from Holden to fix the error. Did that and the issues weren't fixed. Turns out the entire transmission was buggered after 50K kms!! And to top it off I needed another $1K part to finally get rid of the codes. All up around $7K later it was fixed. This was a 2012 HOLDEN CAPTIVA with 50k kms. I listed it on Trademe immediately and got rid of it.
    Well, I would be curious on any mechanic that asks $1K to remove error codes. Not fancy on Ford of Holden, I did better by owning a Toyota.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBQ View Post
    Well, I would be curious on any mechanic that asks $1K to remove error codes. Not fancy on Ford of Holden, I did better by owning a Toyota.
    The mechanics charged me for time only, just sent me to Holden to buy the part direct. And that was only for the "1st" $1K part. The second $1K part I needed to buy off Holden after they did the transmission for $5k.

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    Keeping an aging European car going is a very expensive and frustrating business and those without deep pockets needn't apply.. On the other hand, some of the better ones can be a superb bit of kit when they're newer and its worth owning your dream car at least once even if it does turn into a nightmare in later years.
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    Anyone ever own a Land Rover Disco 4 and care to comment whether they found their nirvana? Driven a 2018 and was impressed but not quite in my price range lol. Happy for the older model just for the long drives.

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    https://www.motortrend.com/news/best...e-cars-to-buy/ If only there were all available in right hand drive and those prices were $Kiwi...pretty sure I'd find my nirvana somewhere amongst this lot
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    Perhaps Turners trolls this thread and we’ll be able to rent on a monthly basis.

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    Do the numbers, depreciation on a new European vehicle are multiples of the maintenance required on older ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
    https://www.motortrend.com/news/best...e-cars-to-buy/ If only there were all available in right hand drive and those prices were $Kiwi...pretty sure I'd find my nirvana somewhere amongst this lot
    With cash backs and discounts you get a top spec 2020 M5 for less than a 100k US currently. Given purchasing power is dollar for dollar for the middle class, no wonder the LA streets are full of them. Perhaps time to trade up my garage there. With their depreciation rates thru a business it cost little with tax break over three years there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Bus View Post
    Do the numbers, depreciation on a new European vehicle are multiples of the maintenance required on older ones.
    The golden maxim applying to European vehicles - if you can't afford a new one, you sure as hell can't afford a used one.

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