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    Quote Originally Posted by Sideshow Bob View Post
    Now show Shane Jones......what is bigger than a trillion??
    Does anyone have any insights/opinions about Arborgen? Its evolution from Fletcher Forests to Rubicon to Arborgen with no prospect of delivering any value to shareholders is certainly testing my stamina

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Pepper View Post
    Does anyone have any insights/opinions about Arborgen? Its evolution from Fletcher Forests to Rubicon to Arborgen with no prospect of delivering any value to shareholders is certainly testing my stamina
    Edison is paid to publish once or twice a year a report stating that Rubicon / Arbogen are undervalued (that's what they are doing anyway).

    Just look at this potential:
    https://www.edisoninvestmentresearch...ID=10407&LANG=

    6 years later - nothing but the company name has changed:
    https://www.edisongroup.com/company/...holdings/1685/

    Problem is just - market does not believe them

    But lets face it, while Arbogen's "product" is not particularly environmentally friendly (their seedlings don't fit into the ecosystems they are planted in and are destroying native landscapes), their biggest problem is in my view a quite self serving board. Directors find always reasons to pay themselves a bonus, but Arbogen / Rubicon manged to refine this discipline to its upmost extreme and provides some outstanding examples of the finest troughers money can buy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPeter View Post
    Edison is paid to publish once or twice a year a report stating that Rubicon / Arbogen are undervalued (that's what they are doing anyway).

    Just look at this potential:
    https://www.edisoninvestmentresearch...ID=10407&LANG=

    6 years later - nothing but the company name has changed:
    https://www.edisongroup.com/company/...holdings/1685/

    Problem is just - market does not believe them

    But lets face it, while Arbogen's "product" is not particularly environmentally friendly (their seedlings don't fit into the ecosystems they are planted in and are destroying native landscapes), their biggest problem is in my view a quite self serving board. Directors find always reasons to pay themselves a bonus, but Arbogen / Rubicon manged to refine this discipline to its upmost extreme and provides some outstanding examples of the finest troughers money can buy.
    And the hard wait is that the next review is some way off? or maybe a special review regarding Directors fee increase!

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