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    The fees all vary by Geographical area and if your not a private payer your only really paying your pension minus the $80 odd bucks a fortnight you get for pocket money so quite cheap for fully catered care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrunch View Post
    On the few i checked there was a lot of big volumes on the close. My guess is some portfolio rearrangements rather than insightful buying. Even SKT TV was up 3c on the close.
    yeh RYM were down on larger than normal volume
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    Quote Originally Posted by allfromacell View Post
    Both MET and SUM up strongly on close, clearly someone knows something...
    A large player, or larger groups of players have perhaps warmed to the sight of retirement villages I think after seeing all the long term data.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justakiwi View Post
    You really should think before you open that mouth of yours and make blanket and offensively inaccurate statements like that

    As a rest home caregiver I resent your disrespectful (to both residents and staff) comment. If you were standing next to me I’d bitch-slap you!

    Come and visit our rest home and talk to our residents. Yes, we are all understaffed but we don’t neglect anyone and we definitely do not leave anyone sitting in soiled incontinence products “all the time” - or “any of the time.”

    Unbelievable
    Deny my experience all you want but its my truth and i know that. Get real it happens. People who wont accept other peoples experiences and your threat of violence suggests you are in the wrong job!
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    My "threat of violence" was an emotional reaction to your nasty comment about rest homes, and not serious, as you know full well. I am passionate about my job.it is one of the most under valued and under appreciated jobs, and I get defensive when people like you make disrespectful, generalised claims about the care our elderly receive.Yes, there are some carers who should not be working in the area, but the vast majority of us put everything we have into our jobs and we 100% care about our residents. If you (and others) are so disgusted with the care provided, why on earth would you ever invest in the sector?

    I apologise for my bitch slap comment, but you are wrong about me. Every resident I care for is important to me. I care about each and every one of them. They are treated with respect, compassion and love. Always.

    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Deny my experience all you want but its my truth and i know that. Get real it happens. People who wont accept other peoples experiences and your threat of violence suggests you are in the wrong job!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Deny my experience all you want but its my truth and i know that. Get real it happens. People who wont accept other peoples experiences and your threat of violence suggests you are in the wrong job!

    A very unfair and uncalled for comment

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    A bitch slap sounds just the ticket in this case.

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    May I suggest we get back to the business of comparing retirement village companies and their merits.
    I see SUM has made some good announcements this morning
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    Quote Originally Posted by justakiwi View Post
    My "threat of violence" was an emotional reaction to your nasty comment about rest homes, and not serious, as you know full well. I am passionate about my job.it is one of the most under valued and under appreciated jobs, and I get defensive when people like you make disrespectful, generalised claims about the care our elderly receive.Yes, there are some carers who should not be working in the area, but the vast majority of us put everything we have into our jobs and we 100% care about our residents. If you (and others) are so disgusted with the care provided, why on earth would you ever invest in the sector?

    I apologise for my bitch slap comment, but you are wrong about me. Every resident I care for is important to me. I care about each and every one of them. They are treated with respect, compassion and love. Always.
    Accepted and im sure you do.And as i noted staff are overworked so cant always pickup on an aroma from residents in their lazyboys on wheels as they rush past a room call ,way down the corridor . Sadly at the care place i visit most of the long term carers and nurses who had been there a long time and who had a calling to do this work left when new management came in. Very different now. I have also been told by a carer at one place Adult nappies are issued at a two a day limit and she has had to sneak another one for a resident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by couta1 View Post
    A bitch slap sounds just the ticket in this case.
    Sounds like you need a patch, plenty of gangs out there, who disrespect women as well.

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    “aromas” are not always what a bystander might think they are. The reality is, that no matter how often we change someone’s incontinence products, or how often we assist them with showering/washing, sometimes there is always a lingering smell. Many elderly residents have catheters or colostomy bags. They are very effective solutions to what would otherwise be very difficult and potentially embarrassing situations for people, but they are not 100% odour-proof. If these people were living in their own home, or yours, chances are you would experience “aromas.” It is not specific to rest homes.

    If you were to come visit our rest home and wander around chatting with our residents, you would find that they are all very happy with the care we give them. Families also genuinely appreciate the love and care we show their loved ones. Just last week the family of a resident who passed away (in our care) came along and put on afternoon tea all the staff and residents. This was their way of saying “thank you” for the (their words) “Incredible care” we gave their father. They were with him every day - day and night - for about 10 days, before he died, and they saw first hand just how much we care. They were so grateful that their father was able to stay in his rest home “home” to die, and not have to be taken to hospital or hospice. Many tears were shed when he died, and more at the afternoon tea. Not the least of which were our tears.

    I have recently trained to be a supervisor. When I work a supervising shift, I work from 3.30 - 11pm. Over tea time we have 3 staff on. After 7.30pm there is me, and one caregiver. We have no RN on during that time. I am responsible for administering medications, including controlled drugs such as morphine. I am responsible for 32 residents. If there is an emergency such as a fire, a resident has a medical issue or accident, I am the one who must act and make the appropriate decisions. If somebody passes away on my shift, I have to manage that and follow the relevant procedures. For all of this additional responsibility I am paid an additional - on top of my standard caregiver rate - $5.60 (after tax and KiwiSaver deductions). That’s it. My dedication, passion and willingness to step up and assume a supervisor’s position, is worth a mere $5.60.

    I don’t do this for the money.

    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Accepted and im sure you do.And as i noted staff are overworked so cant always pickup on an aroma from residents in their lazyboys on wheels as they rush past a room call ,way down the corridor . Sadly at the care place i visit most of the long term carers and nurses who had been there a long time and who had a calling to do this work left when new management came in. Very different now. I have also been told by a carer at one place Adult nappies are issued at a two a day limit and she has had to sneak another one for a resident.
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    justakiwi - Good on you mate. We need heaps more people just like you !
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    Agree.
    If I need care I think I will send her a PM, and try and get into the care home she works at.!!

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    Ditto sounds like the best of the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
    May I suggest we get back to the business of comparing retirement village companies and their merits.
    I see SUM has made some good announcements this morning

    The St Johns site looks like a real winner. It will provide a home for over 400 residents and enjoy expansive views over Auckland City and Rangitoto at the higher levels. Should see some good profit from this one!

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