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The HLG thread been discussing the imperative of ‘maximising shareholder value’
Seems the world is moving on and that the company has a duty as an entity is to its full range of stakeholders
To keep the discussion off the HLG thread I’ve started this thread.
Much respected Rob Campbell talked about this the other day.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/123...e-ceo-salaries
We need a revolution in the Board room.
“ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”
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No doubt some will say Rob’s lost the plot - or as Rob himself says ''my views maybe a bit idealistic to some''.
Good on you Rob
“ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”
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Executives' salaries and benefits have become totally out of step with their performance, especially when they do not perform!
definitely time for a rethink.
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I fully endorse the views of Rob ...I suggested some time back on Fisher managed listed PIEs forum that investment companies should be looking to protect untrained and newbies investors by trying to close huge aberrations in market prices of their funds .People are buying many of them hugely over their last reported NAV ...as much as 12-15 % . Just by providing a market maker on NZX can solve this distortion of demand and supply mismatch at the moment thus encouraging new investors in fold in a fair manner .
But my suggestion was not well accepted by other share holders as they think its against old share holders interest as it will rob them of the opportunity of doing arbitrages at newbies expense .
For me a fair and well meaning company should be responsible towards all not just its shareholders .
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Interesting too, in a recent class on Corporate Finance the mantra was repeated and repeated "the purpose of the company.... IS TO MAXIMISE SHAREHOLDER VALUE" - I found it a little out of step with where the world seems to be heading, though, like Rob, perhaps I am too much of an idealist.
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A company's activities affect and have implications for more than its shareholders. Companies Act needs amending? Depending on the type and scope of its activities, perhaps other stakeholders should be given seats on the Board or votes alongside shareholders...employees, lenders, local communities, environmental agencies, industry regulators etc.
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I think that companies such as Mainfreight are starting to show the way in this respect. Their stellar performance also shows that inclusiveness does not have to be at the expense of shareholders.
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![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by thebusinessman
Interesting too, in a recent class on Corporate Finance the mantra was repeated and repeated "the purpose of the company.... IS TO MAXIMISE SHAREHOLDER VALUE" - I found it a little out of step with where the world seems to be heading, though, like Rob, perhaps I am too much of an idealist.
Therein lies a problem .....’they’ who totally believe that make sure that maximising shareholder value mantra is part of the curriculum
Got to get it entrenched in young minds before they see the world for what it is.
“ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”
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AirNZ is the epitome of a company which is focused solely on rewarding those at the top and shareholders (including government). I think prior to recent redundancies of around 4500 staff, based on the pay scales of those at the top and those at the bottom, removing 8000 of the lowest paid employees only had around a 20% impact on the overall wage bill for the company, at a time when there were approx 12,000 staff. Most frontline customer facing staff on average full-time salaries of $40-$50k, while several thousand management and other staff on $200k plus, and over 500 on $400k plus, and approx 20 on $600k plus. They include this breakdown in their annual report. For a company which is built on the reputation of its front line staff and customer service, you'd think that those actually serving the customers in airports and on aircraft would reap a little more of the rewards when the business is performing well. Instead during tough times they are the first to go, and during good times they are the last to see any financial benefit.
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I believe the ESG pendulum has swung to far to the left. Some companies, and a recent excellent case study is Synlait, have taken it upon themselves without shareholder approval to elevate people and the planet to the same level as shareholders and in doing so expended vast management resources of over 30 staff for more than a year achieving this accreditation. They fiddled endlessly while Rome burned and their debt level's blew out badly and they exposed shareholders to untoward legal and operational risk with Pokeno.
The risk is if companies start off on missions that are tangential or worse still incongruent to the primary purpose shareholders created them for with their risk capital, shareholders interests will become subservient to the whims and wishes of boards and senior management with their own socialist or ideological agenda's.
I say, sure, be kind to the environment, comply with all environmental and employment laws and ensure all stakeholders receive fair and equitable treatment but lets not ever forget that shareholders stumped up with their own risk capital to further the interests of the company to maximize profit so those shareholders who own the company can make their own decisions about what altruistic endeavors they wish to pursue and not have directors and management making ad hoc decisions outside of their mandate on shareholders behalf.
Shareholders deserve the respect as the one's who invested their own risk capital to be the ones to make their own decisions about who to bless with their dividends. When directors and management make major decisions on shareholders behalf to expend vast resources on some pet socialist or environmental project they are exceeding their authority and I for one will not support any company that treats shareholders so disrespectfully.
Last edited by Beagle; 12-11-2020 at 10:24 AM.
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