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    Re Gabbard. We are yet again witnessing an intriguing & somewhat perverted phenomenon. When those on "the left" turn on their own, they get super nasty. Very often, far nastier than they do with their ideological opponents.
    The ability to critically think is one of the key requisites for being truly objective & seeing things for how they really are. Beware of those who claim that "the science is settled".

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    Quote Originally Posted by FTG View Post
    Re Gabbard. We are yet again witnessing an intriguing & somewhat perverted phenomenon. When those on "the left" turn on their own, they get super nasty. Very often, far nastier than they do with their ideological opponents.
    Isn’t that always the case? Likewise with the right.

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    Thanks Moka re the reference to "City on the Hill". There was an American series based in Boston with that name and I always wondered what the reference was relating to. Apparently the early puritan Americans brought the reference with them from the Bible.

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    Anyone else keeping an eye on "Disease X" currently under investigation in the Congo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davexl View Post
    Man, we need those new frigates, along with all those drone & counter drone systems...

    Dwarfed by China in shipbuilding, US looks to build its defence base


    https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/12/06/d...-defence-base/
    So where might these new frigates be coming from? Korea? Australia? Sweden? Italy? France? Or a cheeky bid for the three US Zumwalts. . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaserEyeKiwi View Post
    Anyone else keeping an eye on "Disease X" currently under investigation in the Congo?
    I'm sure as long as it's kept away from the Wuhan lab and Fauci it will pass.

    What were Elon's pronouns again? That's right....Prosecute Fauci! Run Tony run! Chickens roosting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaserEyeKiwi View Post
    Anyone else keeping an eye on "Disease X" currently under investigation in the Congo?
    https://www.dw.com/en/disease-x-what...ngo/a-71005734

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTM 3442 View Post
    So where might these new frigates be coming from? Korea? Australia? Sweden? Italy? France? Or a cheeky bid for the three US Zumwalts. . .
    Probably from Australia based on Korean, Japanese perhaps Italian designs, with some superstructure modules even possibly built in NZ, except the 5-eyes West has run down its shipbuilding capacity so much it may be simpler to outsource the lot to overseas yards to Aussi specs as the US is now attempting to do.

    Better be in quick...

    https://news.usni.org/2024/12/09/expanding-u-s-naval-repair-overseas-new-icebreaker-fleet-key-to-competing-with-china-says-panel?ct=t(USNI_NEWS_DAILY)&mc_cid=65042063dd

    As for the Zumwalts their prime purpose is now blue water lobbing of Hypersonics, at least when the US can ever figure out how to make them! Australia had some good ideas, don't know what became of it though...

    https://news.usni.org/2024/12/06/fir...cid=9221cd0c64
    Last edited by Davexl; 11-12-2024 at 02:27 PM.
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    South Korea STILL unstable...(Some distressing content)

    Police raid South Korean president Yoon Suk Yeol’s office over martial law declaration

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/world-news/3...aw-declaration
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    Orbán calls Putin to discuss ending Ukraine war. December 11, 2024

    https://www.politico.eu/article/hung...g-ukraine-war/
    The Hungarian and Russian leaders reportedly spoke about finding a diplomatic route to peace in Ukraine.
    Hungary’s Prime Minister Viktor Orbán called Russian President Vladimir Putin on Wednesday to talk about peace plans for Ukraine.

    “I had an hour-long phone conversation this morning with President Putin,” Orbán wrote on social media.
    “These are the most dangerous weeks of the Russia Ukraine War. We are taking every possible diplomatic step to argue in favour of a ceasefire and peace talks,” he added.
    The two leaders also discussed energy and economic cooperation, as well as “the tense situation in the Middle East region in the context of the recent events in Syria,” the Kremlin said.

    Orbán's phone call with Putin comes only two days after his meeting with United States President-elect Donald Trump and billionaire tech mogul Elon Musk at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home in Florida on Monday.
    However, according to Putin's spokesman Dmitry Peskov, the Hungarian leader did not deliver any messages from Trump, and he also denied that Orbán and Putin discussed a possible meeting in the future.
    Orbán was also the first EU leader to meet with Putin in Moscow in July, shortly after assuming the EU presidency, despite Western efforts to isolate the Russian leader.

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