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25-02-2022, 10:52 AM
#1101
Hillary should have won in 2016, she was right.
Putin didn't like her at all.
Last edited by Panda-NZ-; 25-02-2022 at 11:17 AM.
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25-02-2022, 10:58 AM
#1102
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25-02-2022, 11:08 AM
#1103
Originally Posted by mcdongle
I see America still not sanctioning oil and gas, So they are against the Russians but not if it will hurt themselves, i think the ukranians thought they had their backs and have been let down.
Yes, I think Putin has won his gamble.
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25-02-2022, 11:27 AM
#1104
Member
Yep unfortunately Russia will take Ukraine and will get away with it sporting just a couple of scratches. meanwhile China watching with great interest to see how the world reacts, this will set the precedent and has way scarier ramifications…
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25-02-2022, 11:30 AM
#1105
Originally Posted by alokdhir
Russia just wanted to create a buffer zone ...that they have done at the expense of poor Ukrainian people ...another Iraq or Afghanistan created ...what a pity and how cruel ...Both side equally responsible ...Ugly power games of the powerful .
Pardon me?
I took you so far for a decent poster, but you can't really mean that ... or can you?
This would be victim blaming to the worst degree. Same as saying that Czechia and e.g. Northern France was equally responsible at the time Hitler invaded them. Is this what you think? Really?
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"Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future" (Niels Bohr)
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25-02-2022, 11:33 AM
#1106
Originally Posted by newbieinvestor
Off politics - back to the market ... I don't understand how Nasdaq is rising after the Russian attack... did the market factor it in already? Or are people shifting to Tech stocks?
DOW kept rising for 6 months after the start of WW2. So - what would be different this time?
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"Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future" (Niels Bohr)
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25-02-2022, 12:09 PM
#1107
Originally Posted by alokdhir
Here both sides did not mean Ukraine and Russia ...but meant USA and Russia in creating troubles for the helpless people of Iraq , Lebanon , Syria, Afghanistan and latest is Ukraine ... I meant Power games of these countries at the cost of innocent people of many countries .
OK - thanks for clarifying that, this makes your original statement a bit easier to digest.
Still - hard to see how anybody can put equal blame on the attacking bully and murderer (Russia) as well as on the West (its bigger than the US) who clearly didn't use the opportunities given after the breakdown of the USSR to create a better and fairer world order.
It is a sad reflection on humanity that in all human systems it seems to be much easier for the bullies, thugs and and aggressors to be flushed to the top rather than decent and thoughtful leaders. During the time where the West could have facilitated to generate a better and fairer political system for the world they wasted this time indulging in their greed (making money out of the crumbling Eastern block) and by elevating themselves political monsters and inepts like at the end Trump and Johnson.
So - yes, The West clearly carries some blame for wasting the last 3 decades to create a better world order, but still - they didn't pull the trigger, Wladimir Adolf Hitler Putin did.
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"Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future" (Niels Bohr)
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25-02-2022, 12:25 PM
#1108
Originally Posted by BlackPeter
OK - thanks for clarifying that, this makes your original statement a bit easier to digest.
Still - hard to see how anybody can put equal blame on the attacking bully and murderer (Russia) as well as on the West (its bigger than the US) who clearly didn't use the opportunities given after the breakdown of the USSR to create a better and fairer world order.
It is a sad reflection on humanity that in all human systems it seems to be much easier for the bullies, thugs and and aggressors to be flushed to the top rather than decent and thoughtful leaders. During the time where the West could have facilitated to generate a better and fairer political system for the world they wasted this time indulging in their greed (making money out of the crumbling Eastern block) and by elevating themselves political monsters and inepts like at the end Trump and Johnson.
So - yes, The West clearly carries some blame for wasting the last 3 decades to create a better world order, but still - they didn't pull the trigger, Wladimir Adolf Hitler Putin did.
https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2022/02/2...-at-its-peril/
It is complicated
westerly
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25-02-2022, 12:46 PM
#1109
Originally Posted by westerly
Quote from your article:
"Vladimir Putin was absolutely correct to describe the break-up of the Soviet Union as a geopolitical catastrophe. The Russians had done the world an enormous favour in taking responsibility for the cutthroat nations of Eastern Europe and the Baltic littoral."
Speechless that anyone could read that and think it was worth re-posting! Staggering ignorance.
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25-02-2022, 12:50 PM
#1110
Member
Good reading on why there will be no tough sanctions, Russia provides a large amount of material for making computer chips etc.
https://intelligencequarterly.com/ah...risis/
https://uk.investing.com/news/commod...kraine-2591509
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