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    Quote Originally Posted by greater fool View Post
    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/mili...olve-modernise

    "the risks of naval confrontation between the two countries are increasing, because the ‘freedom of navigation’ appeal by the US is in essence to maintain its own hegemonic status and, in this sense, Washington is destined to clamp down on every Chinese move that will help the Chinese naval capability build up,”


    https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/polit...it-record-high

    https://www.stripes.com/news/pacific...a-sea-1.627890

    https://thediplomat.com/2020/01/sout...ion-operation/

    https://thediplomat.com/2020/07/us-c...s-in-spratlys/

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-a...-idUSKCN24H0D5

    South China Sea - fear of the loss of hegemony.
    Freedom of Navigation excercises were used in the Persian Gulf.
    The USS Stark and USS Vincennes were able to "expose" National Security challenges.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Vincennes_(CG-49)
    "dispatched to the Persian Gulf in 1988 in support of Operation Earnest Will during the Iran–Iraq War. Operating in this capacity the
    cruiser shot down Iran Air Flight 655 over the Persian Gulf, killing 290 passengers and sparking an international incident between
    Iran and the United States."


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Stark_incident
    "The USS Stark incident occurred during the Iran–Iraq War on 17 May 1987, when an Iraqi jet aircraft fired two Exocet missiles at
    the American frigate USS Stark. A total of thirty-seven United States Navy personnel were killed or later died as a result of the attack,
    and twenty-one were injured........................................... ..
    Washington used the incident to pressure Iran, which it later blamed for the whole situation. President Reagan said "We've never
    considered them [Iraq's military] hostile at all", and "the villain in the piece is Iran".[7][8][9]"

    Freedom of Navigation exercises in South China Sea now risk a 'Gulf of Tonkin' incident.
    https://www.britannica.com/event/Gul...onkin-incident

    https://www.smh.com.au/national/echo...13-p55v4s.html

    At the end of WWII America was at it's peak in warfaring. They tried to move on a weak China, weakened by its
    civil war, by attacking through Korea. America got a bloody nose for their efforts.

    https://koreanwarlegacy.org/chapters...he-yalu-river/
    The USA play book is rather thin. Another replay of the Persian Gulf 'Operation Earnest Will"
    coming up?

    https://asiatimes.com/2020/09/pompeo...-persian-gulf/
    Last edited by greater fool; 23-09-2020 at 07:47 PM. Reason: There is an A in Earnest
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    Australia as collateral damage vs NZ's smarter game...food for thought...

    Morrison digging a grave for Australia

    By yielding to US pressure to antagonize China, Australia risks being buried alive

    https://asiatimes.com/2020/09/morris...for-australia/
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    Perhaps this time, Duterte has finally figured out who he wants to side with...!

    "Philippines' Duterte gets tough on China in shift back toward U.S."


    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/20...erte-china-us/
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    Indonesia president warns over super-power tensions in U.N. address

    https://www.reuters.com/article/un-a...-idUSKCN26E0GP

    Jokowi said the coronavirus pandemic was a time for global unity.

    “What we see, instead, is one of deep division and growing rivalries,” he said.
    “If division and rivalries continue to persist, then I am concerned that the pillars of stability and sustainable peace will crumble or even (be) destroyed.”
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    Start at the bottom and work your way up?

    https://www.defenseone.com/ideas/202...ncerns/168749/

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    Resembling something closer to the truth concerning the US and its total failings since Trump...

    "America’s global prestige on life support "

    https://asiatimes.com/2020/09/americ...-life-support/
    Last edited by Davexl; 29-09-2020 at 04:22 PM.
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    Who will step up and lead in the Pacific on the global stage between the US & China?
    Will it finally be Japan?


    As U.S. and China squabble at U.N., a plea — and warning — from Micronesia

    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/09/27/asia-pacific/us-china-un-micronesia/

    “A lot of the U.N.’s members think the U.S. is destructive and China is power-hungry.
    They don’t find either very appealing,” he said.

    “Ambitious Europeans like (French President Emmanuel) Macron see a chance
    to fill the leadership gap, so they are willing to challenge Beijing and Washington.”
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    Something to keep in the back of your mind...

    War in the Caucasus will spread to Russia and Turkey


    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion...russia-turkey/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davexl View Post
    Ren Zhiqiang - who called Chinese president a 'clown' - jailed for 18 years
    A relevant quotation from Winston Churchill;

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marilyn Munroe View Post
    A relevant quotation from Winston Churchill;

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

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    I know it is a quotation from Winston Churchill no less, but I recently wonder if the pen is indeed mightier than the sword...

    Perhaps the seeds of freedom accompanying the capitalist system will yet set the world to rights, but it seems
    that at least the capitalist system "with Chinese characteristics" will give the West a run for its money...

    What concerns me greatly is what the technology world will leverage itself off. Which system shall prevail with the
    newfound tools of AI and the likes of 5G in war and in peace, in the politics, cyber-space and space realms to come,
    except, it is already here...
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