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24-07-2022, 09:59 PM
#3221
What kind of world is coming to a reality near you...
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/07/23/p...ear/index.html
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24-07-2022, 11:52 PM
#3222
Wonder just how deep the dirty linen goes across china property markets ... elements of money go rounds.
still the 300 odd billion of debt is backed by actual bricks and steel.
but how many down stream creditors and investors are effected and who hold the bonds...
China Evergrande CEO, CFO resign amid probe into subsidiary - NZ Herald
it is systemic across it's economy and banking collapse kept at bay by china's reserve bank and china's surplus.
When business dont have to make profits to keep getting government loans risk management departments dont exist in the end.
Last edited by Waltzing; 24-07-2022 at 11:56 PM.
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25-07-2022, 09:01 AM
#3223
Originally Posted by mcdongle
Typical misinformation.
I checked this info in the German media - and the clickbait seems to be 1-to-1 translated from Bild (which is the German equivalent to the US Fox news - stupid dumb right wing populist lies;
More trustworthy reports (like e.g. MDR) say that EnViaM increased their prices by roughly 9%, however due to a reduction of government duties most consumers will pay less.
They say as well that consumers need to expect gas prices to rise later in the year ... but no percentage given (and relevant for all gas consumers).
https://www.mdr.de/nachrichten/deuts...krieg-100.html
"Der ostdeutsche Energieversorger EnviaM erhöht zum 1. Juni den Strompreis für rund 700.000 Kunden. Der Preis steigt um knapp 9 Prozent auf 32,21 Cent je Kilowattstunde (brutto), wie das Unternehmen mit Sitz in Chemnitz mitteilte – für Privat- und Gewerbekunden in der Grundversorgung in Sachsen, Sachsen-Anhalt, Thüringen und Brandenburg. Nicht betroffen sind demnach vorerst etwa 400.000 Kunden mit langfristigen Tarifen."
Last edited by BlackPeter; 25-07-2022 at 09:06 AM.
Reason: Oops - forgot to include the quote. Fixed.
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"Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future" (Niels Bohr)
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25-07-2022, 09:28 AM
#3224
Gunny BP is a german speaker...
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25-07-2022, 09:45 AM
#3225
Member
[QUOTE=BlackPeter;967754]Typical misinformation.
I checked this info in the German media - and the clickbait seems to be 1-to-1 translated from Bild (which is the German equivalent to the US Fox news - stupid dumb right wing populist lies;
More trustworthy reports (like e.g. MDR) say that EnViaM increased their prices by roughly 9%, however due to a reduction of government duties most consumers will pay less.
They say as well that consumers need to expect gas prices to rise later in the year ... but no percentage given (and relevant for all gas consumers).
https://www.mdr.de/nachrichten/deuts...krieg-100.html
"Der ostdeutsche Energieversorger EnviaM erhöht zum 1. Juni den Strompreis für rund 700.000 Kunden. Der Preis steigt um knapp 9 Prozent auf 32,21 Cent je Kilowattstunde (brutto), wie das Unternehmen mit Sitz in Chemnitz mitteilte – für Privat- und Gewerbekunden in der Grundversorgung in Sachsen, Sachsen-Anhalt, Thüringen und Brandenburg. Nicht betroffen sind demnach vorerst etwa 400.000 Kunden mit langfristigen Tarifen."[/
Bloomberg must be lying as well then if prices people are paying are less
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...es-uniper-says
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25-07-2022, 10:12 AM
#3226
Originally Posted by mcdongle
You need to read the stuff and understand the context before you use it to support your message.
Bloomberg just talks about (so far undefined) energy price rises to expect.
No word about the 500% click bait you distributed.
I don't think you need to be a rocket scientist to predict significant energy price rises given that gas bills in Germany are calculated only once a year (based on past consumption) ... and sure, gas (as well as oil prices) went up - and after the next annual billing event the price rise will hit as well the German consumer.
Just in case you didn't notice - gas and petrol in NZ (and most other places of the world) is already much higher now. Shock and horror, lets create some more click bait, shall we?
The only newsworthy item might have been that most German gas consumer are billed only annually ... and therefore still have to look forward to the price rises others already endured.
Clearly - in Europe are summer holidays - its the silly season for news media and therefore they regurgitate whatever everybody knows already - or in the case of Bild, whatever they can make up (and that's a lot).
Last edited by BlackPeter; 25-07-2022 at 04:26 PM.
Reason: noticed that McDongle screwed up the quote by editing the html. Now fixed.....
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"Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future" (Niels Bohr)
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25-07-2022, 11:15 AM
#3227
Originally Posted by kiora
Just for the record - this is not my thread, it is yours and everyone elses...
By the way, Sharon Hunter was very inspiring as I remember - as the face and owner of PC Direct, just saying...
All science is either Physics or stamp collecting - Ernest Rutherford
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25-07-2022, 06:54 PM
#3228
But now a director of Plexure ???
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25-07-2022, 08:52 PM
#3229
China property risks hit earning estimates...but its got to be the hopeless vaccine situation surely..
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/25/gold...ro-growth.html
MACAO expecting 1 % of normal income...
Last edited by Waltzing; 25-07-2022 at 09:51 PM.
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25-07-2022, 10:18 PM
#3230
Originally Posted by kiora
But now a director of Plexure ???
was a director in veritas investments ltd (Mad butcher)
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