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22-09-2022, 11:02 AM
#3831
Originally Posted by BlackPeter
Putin is not the first despot getting stuck with his troops in the Ukrainian / Russian winter. But Putin is dumber. Having to fight during winter in this environment with bad prepared, hardly trained, highly unmotivated and ill equipped soldiers against soldiers fighting for their homeland and their families is suicide.
Hitler used the same strategy to destroy his troops and lose the war, and so did Napoleon.
Putin just following the example of these historical monsters ...
Perhaps Trump and his army of rednecks should join him.?
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22-09-2022, 11:22 AM
#3832
Originally Posted by percy
Perhaps Trump and his army of rednecks should join him.?
They certainly would be an amazing character match - Putin and Trump the dream team from hell!
And yes, they do love each other, don't they?
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22-09-2022, 11:33 AM
#3833
Member
Is this an opportunity for the Chinese leader to stand up and become a real stateman?
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22-09-2022, 11:52 AM
#3834
Originally Posted by beetills
Is this an opportunity for the Chinese leader to stand up and become a real stateman?
Xi?
I guess it depends how you define a "real stateman"
Xi was quite happy to support Putin's war and he is clearly not worried about killing and suppressing innocent people. His democratic credentials are laughable. suppressing freedom of speech and incarcerating anybody disagreeing with his views. Currently though trying to climb on the fence related to Putin's atrocities given that Putin's war is bad for China's business. It appears Western investments in China are currently dropping. This makes his plans for China to rule the world somewhat more aspirational. He needs Western Know How and money to conquer us.
If this stance (no respect for human rights, no respect for foreign rights and international law, giving China all rights over any other people just by drawing a line on a map, but ready to restrain his support for a fellow loser to further his agenda) makes a state(s)man, than yeah, maybe ...
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"Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future" (Niels Bohr)
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22-09-2022, 12:02 PM
#3835
Originally Posted by beetills
Is this an opportunity for the Chinese leader to stand up and become a real stateman?
He is already a statesman compared to Trump and Biden.
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22-09-2022, 12:28 PM
#3836
Originally Posted by Balance
He is already a statesman compared to Trump and Biden.
According to the Oxford dictionary is a statesman a "a skilled, experienced, and respected political leader or figure."
So lets see - Trump is an absolute moron, but he is still respected by mindless crowds rallying around him. He is as well experienced to lie and skilled to trash anybody attacking him. Trump clearly must be a statesman.
Xi is a dictator without any democratic credentials. Not sure whether his henchmen respect him, but sure, there are many who fear him, and that for good reason. Notice the difference?
Biden is respected by many, and he is clearly skilled and experienced as statesman. He gave Trump in many respects master lessons, but sure - he is only human and made as well mistakes. Even statesman make mistakes ;
Putting Xi over Biden in any positive discipline can only be your idea of making a very sick joke.
Last edited by BlackPeter; 22-09-2022 at 12:30 PM.
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22-09-2022, 01:06 PM
#3837
Originally Posted by BlackPeter
According to the Oxford dictionary is a statesman a "a skilled, experienced, and respected political leader or figure."
So lets see - Trump is an absolute moron, but he is still respected by mindless crowds rallying around him. He is as well experienced to lie and skilled to trash anybody attacking him. Trump clearly must be a statesman.
Xi is a dictator without any democratic credentials. Not sure whether his henchmen respect him, but sure, there are many who fear him, and that for good reason. Notice the difference?
Biden is respected by many, and he is clearly skilled and experienced as statesman. He gave Trump in many respects master lessons, but sure - he is only human and made as well mistakes. Even statesman make mistakes ;
Putting Xi over Biden in any positive discipline can only be your idea of making a very sick joke.
So you consider Trump to be a statesman because of mindless adoring crowds in the US but a different standard applies to Xi because he is Chinese?
You obviously have no idea that Xi is highly respected and highly regarded by the China people. China stands tall today because of him and if you bother to canvas the opinions of the Chinese, you will know that as a fact.
That’s what matters for a nation which was bullied and forced to be second rate to Western countries and Japan for centuries.
People like you & the US military & weapons industry want to continue China to be subservient to Western interests. Dreams are free as they say.
Trump is respected because of mindless crowd? Well, good on him and good on you! LOL!
Biden is a barely coherent bumbling idiot - his withdrawal from Afghanistan is testimony to that fact. You are free to respect him and good on you.
Keep swallowing the weapons and military industry spin - you seem to enjoy their spit.
Last edited by Balance; 22-09-2022 at 01:10 PM.
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22-09-2022, 01:58 PM
#3838
Originally Posted by Balance
So you consider Trump to be a statesman because of mindless adoring crowds in the US but a different standard applies to Xi because he is Chinese?
You obviously have no idea that Xi is highly respected and highly regarded by the China people. China stands tall today because of him and if you bother to canvas the opinions of the Chinese, you will know that as a fact.
That’s what matters for a nation which was bullied and forced to be second rate to Western countries and Japan for centuries.
People like you & the US military & weapons industry want to continue China to be subservient to Western interests. Dreams are free as they say.
Trump is respected because of mindless crowd? Well, good on him and good on you! LOL!
Biden is a barely coherent bumbling idiot - his withdrawal from Afghanistan is testimony to that fact. You are free to respect him and good on you.
Keep swallowing the weapons and military industry spin - you seem to enjoy their spit.
Absolutely incredible how you can ignore Xi's genocide and the iron fist he uses against anybody disagreeing. Only other monsters would respect him. Do you?
Your judgement is so far off any scale that its hard to comment. Either your family is threatened by Xi's henchmen .. which would sort of excuse the disturbing nonsense and the personal offenses you are spreading - or your judgement is deeply disturbed for other reasons.
If its the first - I feel sorry for you and good luck.
If its the second - I feel sorry for you and please seek professional help.
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"Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future" (Niels Bohr)
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22-09-2022, 02:07 PM
#3839
Originally Posted by BlackPeter
Absolutely incredible how you can ignore Xi's genocide and the iron fist he uses against anybody disagreeing. Only other monsters would respect him. Do you?
Your judgement is so far off any scale that its hard to comment. Either your family is threatened by Xi's henchmen .. which would sort of excuse the disturbing nonsense and the personal offenses you are spreading - or your judgement is deeply disturbed for other reasons.
If its the first - I feel sorry for you and good luck.
If its the second - I feel sorry for you and please seek professional help.
You do not have to feel sorry for me or anyone who does not buy into the US/Western war mongering narrative.
Good on you to swallow the narrative but please, spare us your regurgitation of the propaganda of the war mongers.
Astounding at this day and age that anyone with any principle, moral or decency would assert that Trump is a statesman - that is the ultimate insult to your own intelligence but you obviously are not even aware of it!
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22-09-2022, 02:21 PM
#3840
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Putin in all his speeches hasn't said how he is going to arm,feed or clothe these 300k new troops,on top of that he never mentions incoming nuclear bombs.
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