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23-09-2022, 08:00 AM
#3861
Originally Posted by GTM 3442
Navy officers so easily bought with prostitutes, gifts, cigars, wine, meals and of course, money.
US$35m?
Like a grain of sand in Northland’s 90 mile beach of the type & amount of bribes and payments involved in US arms sales and military spend.
The minnows get caught while the big sharks get away scot free.
Last edited by Balance; 23-09-2022 at 08:08 AM.
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23-09-2022, 08:43 AM
#3862
Whoops china breaks away from Russia slightly...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqtaHY4ASfc
Not even they like being shacked to a ruined country (unless they can get some cheap assets from it).
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23-09-2022, 09:03 AM
#3863
Originally Posted by Balance
Navy officers so easily bought with prostitutes, gifts, cigars, wine, meals and of course, money.
US$35m?
Like a grain of sand in Northland’s 90 mile beach of the type & amount of bribes and payments involved in US arms sales and military spend.
The minnows get caught while the big sharks get away scot free.
I was mostly bemused with the number of admirals involved - sixty admirals. On a fleet strength of about 600 vessels, that's one admiral per ten vessels.
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23-09-2022, 09:04 AM
#3864
Originally Posted by Panda-NZ-
A cynic might ask what's in it for China in encouraging a weakened and weakening Russia to venture further down the path toward ruin and irrelevance.
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23-09-2022, 10:24 AM
#3865
Originally Posted by Balance
You do not have to feel sorry for me or anyone who does not buy into the US/Western war mongering narrative.
Good on you to swallow the narrative but please, spare us your regurgitation of the propaganda of the war mongers.
Astounding at this day and age that anyone with any principle, moral or decency would assert that Trump is a statesman - that is the ultimate insult to your own intelligence but you obviously are not even aware of it!
You are clearly an interesting "character".
Amazing that somebody who constantly warns against the spin of western media seems to be absolutely dumb folded by the spin of the Chinese Communist party.
Obviously - your frequent feral attacks against democratically elected politicians (like e.g. Jacinda Adern) stand in strange contrast to your praise of a Chinese strongman without any democratic legitimacy who is responsible for breaking international treaties (e.g. re Hongkong), who is responsible for locking up hundreds of thousands Chinese people just for disagreeing with him, who muted any free press in his country and who is responsible for locking up and torturing millions of people in Xinjang province in concentration camps.
You seem to be a staunch supporter of the monster who is for China what Putin is for Russia or what Hitler used to do be for Germany.
Disgusting.
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"Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future" (Niels Bohr)
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23-09-2022, 10:30 AM
#3866
Originally Posted by beetills
Putin in all his speeches hasn't said how he is going to arm,feed or clothe these 300k new troops,on top of that he never mentions incoming nuclear bombs.
Actually, they mentioned incoming nuclear bombs. I understand that Lavrov made up a western threat of attacking Russia with nuclear bombs. Apparently this is the only reason Russia has to defend itself. The poor Russians attacked their neighbour, stole their territory, raped their women and killed plenty of them, and now they are lying about somebody might attack them.
Lovely people.
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"Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future" (Niels Bohr)
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23-09-2022, 10:34 AM
#3867
Originally Posted by BlackPeter
You are clearly an interesting "character".
Amazing that somebody who constantly warns against the spin of western media seems to be absolutely dumb folded by the spin of the Chinese Communist party.
Obviously - your frequent feral attacks against democratically elected politicians (like e.g. Jacinda Adern) stand in strange contrast to your praise of a Chinese strongman without any democratic legitimacy who is responsible for breaking international treaties (e.g. re Hongkong), who is responsible for locking up hundreds of thousands Chinese people just for disagreeing with him, who muted any free press in his country and who is responsible for locking up and torturing millions of people in Xinjang province in concentration camps.
You seem to be a staunch supporter of the monster who is for China what Putin is for Russia or what Hitler used to do be for Germany.
Disgusting.
And you are for describing Trump and Biden as statesmen.
You are also for USA = War & Conflict & Enemies = Weapons sale
How about the thousands of brown civilians slaughtered by US drones?
And did I praise Xi as you insinuate? I pointed out that by your measure, he is more of a statesman than Trump or Biden. You are not going to get away with using deflection and diversion to debate with me, BP.
Stick to your assertions about why you think Trump is more of a statesman than Xi.
Let me help you - you believe Trump is a statesman because he is swamped by brain dead morons when he rants and raves at rallies. I asserted that by that standard, Xi is easily a statesman as he is respected by the China people.
Last edited by Balance; 23-09-2022 at 10:41 AM.
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23-09-2022, 10:36 AM
#3868
Originally Posted by BlackPeter
Actually, they mentioned incoming nuclear bombs. I understand that Lavrov made up a western threat of attacking Russia with nuclear bombs. Apparently this is the only reason Russia has to defend itself. The poor Russians attacked their neighbour, stole their territory, raped their women and killed plenty of them, and now they are lying about somebody might attack them.
Lovely people.
They fool no one and increasingly, even the Russian people are waking up to reality.
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23-09-2022, 10:43 AM
#3869
Originally Posted by BlackPeter
Actually, they mentioned incoming nuclear bombs. I understand that Lavrov made up a western threat of attacking Russia with nuclear bombs. Apparently this is the only reason Russia has to defend itself. The poor Russians attacked their neighbour, stole their territory, raped their women and killed plenty of them, and now they are lying about somebody might attack them.
Lovely people.
International flight MH17 shot down by their dreg rebels or even worse the russian military.
Ukraine is fully justified in an invasion of russia but has shown restraint and only wants their territory back including crimea.
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23-09-2022, 10:48 AM
#3870
Originally Posted by Panda-NZ-
International flight MH17 shot down by their dreg rebels or even worse the russian military.
Ukraine is fully justified in an invasion of russia but has shown restraint and only wants their territory back including crimea.
LOL - Ukraine invading Russia?
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