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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    If russia joined the EU and the russian economy was comprehensively reformed from Putin's mismanagement then Europe would be the number one world power even eclipsing the united states.

    Make peace not war and rebuild together;
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0zQw2MSrok
    America will never allow it. But is that not what China and Russia want..... Eurasia a massive trading block.

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    Not what Putin wants.

    It's clearly in both Russia and Europe's interests. Russia although backwards currently has some good scientific achievements that would benefit europe combined with the large landmass buffer vs China.
    Last edited by Panda-NZ-; 13-02-2022 at 10:58 AM.

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    https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSenALx17/

    The hypocrisy of the war mongering US in action.

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    Putin told Biden his ideas do not tackle main Russian concerns

    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ns-2022-02-12/

    The US senses weakness in Russia's negotiating position, despite all Putin's amassed troops and is refusing to buckle under this time...
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    An interesting bit of analysis...

    No, Russia will not invade Ukraine

    A large-scale military operation does not fit into Moscow’s cost-benefit calculus.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2...invade-ukraine
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    [QUOTE=Panda-NZ-;941201]If russia joined the EU and the russian economy was comprehensively reformed from Putin's mismanagement then Europe would be the number one world power even eclipsing the united states./QUOTE]

    Some quality thinking has gone into this...!

    Global Strategy 2022: Thwarting Kremlin aggression today for constructive relations tomorrow

    Atlantic Council

    https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/cont...iKGRS1fSO3Udl4
    Last edited by Davexl; 13-02-2022 at 04:21 PM.
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    Putin Whisperer? (Finland - A Republican model for NZ also?)

    He Knows Putin Well. And He Fears for Ukraine.


    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/13/w...tin-nato.html?
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    Hybrid warfare?

    Russia may dodge sanctions by using Putin proxies to invade Ukraine


    https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blog...SX-2jvVrtxZrix
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    How a Russian invasion in Ukraine could disrupt life in America (& in NZ)

    eg S&P 500 dropped 17% on 1990 Kuwait invasion

    https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/14/i...ion/index.html
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    Russia blinked - for now...

    Wall St climbs on Russia's de-escalation


    https://thewest.com.au/business/mark...tion-c-5711338
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