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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/124...19-freeze-ends

    Rents soar after Covid freeze lifted.

    Hardly surprising given how this government has systematically undermined the rental market.

    Warm homes regulations passed on in full to tenants.

    Rental shortage continues.
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    And of course, up goes the government budget for rental support.

    What a friend this government of incompetents is proving to be for the very people they loath - landlords!

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    Your government at work;

    Why don't we bring in a burdensome vehicle emissions standard which reduces car affordability making people hang on to their polluting old bangers for longer?

    Stuff: "Government introducing car import rules aimed at lowering emissions"

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    Regulating CO2 emissions to 105g/km will be difficult to achieve within the four year period, especially given the supply chains under enormous pressure. Many vehicle manufactures have already cut production due to key component shortages.

    What will probably result, is older vehicles being kept for longer, causing the complete opposite effect of what the government wish to achieve. Prices for new vehicles will also increase substantially, while the range of models will also decrease.

    Electrification of urban bus fleets nationwide will also be highly contentious given the massive capital costs involved not only in purchasing the replacement vehicles, but also the additional vehicles required to operate due to the length of time required to recharge each vehicle, and the associated charging infrastructure. A number of Wellington's fleet are already suffering from very degraded batteries, after only a year or two, so further buses have been added to provide cover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaphod View Post
    Regulating CO2 emissions to 105g/km will be difficult to achieve within the four year period, especially given the supply chains under enormous pressure. Many vehicle manufactures have already cut production due to key component shortages.

    What will probably result, is older vehicles being kept for longer, causing the complete opposite effect of what the government wish to achieve. Prices for new vehicles will also increase substantially, while the range of models will also decrease.

    Electrification of urban bus fleets nationwide will also be highly contentious given the massive capital costs involved not only in purchasing the replacement vehicles, but also the additional vehicles required to operate due to the length of time required to recharge each vehicle, and the associated charging infrastructure. A number of Wellington's fleet are already suffering from very degraded batteries, after only a year or two, so further buses have been added to provide cover.
    I think that banning imports of 2nd hand cars would be an easier change to implement. NZ is on its own in the Western World with imports of old (+8 yo) cars that are being registered for the 1st time in the country. Old technology with higher emissions and less safety features. It's nuts that 1 in 4 "new" registrations are +8 yo cars
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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    I think that banning imports of 2nd hand cars would be an easier change to implement. NZ is on its own in the Western World with imports of old (+8 yo) cars that are being registered for the 1st time in the country. Old technology with higher emissions and less safety features. It's nuts that 1 in 4 "new" registrations are +8 yo cars
    IMO we probably don't need to go as far as banning all 2nd hand imports, perhaps just tighten the existing regulations around safety features, emissions and perhaps introduce a fuel consumption check. At the moment the maximum age of a vehicle you can import is as you stated, set at 8 year old. From a practical perspective however there are very few cars available from Japan that old that also comply with the other requirements, such as emissions standards, ESC, VSS, airbags etc. Practically, most vehicles are 5 years old or less, many with very low Km.

    We'd still need to be careful about how stringent changes to these regulations are, as we could end up causing the exact same effect; shrinking the pool of available vehicles, causing prices to rise, and providing an incentive to keep our existing relatively polluting inefficient vehicles for longer.

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    Since they're giving dealers a 'buy out' option to pay for penalties for vehicles that are over the threshold, it just means that increase will just get passed on to consumers (and will result in far less fun options). Honda, and probably others, do not currently sell a single vehicle in NZ that would comply with that limit. Even the hugely popular RAV4 hybrid doesn't comply.

    And none of this makes manufacturers deal with the emissions produced for the manufacture of the vehicle.

    Good article on Driven listing how limited the car selection will be with todays offerings;
    https://www.driven.co.nz/news/government-clean-car-standard-for-new-zealand-what-exactly-does-a-105g-model-look-like/

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    The Honda Jazz e:HEV, set to be released next month will comply. There are a fewadditional models sold in Japan that will also comply, but they are not offered in NZ at this time.

    My understanding of the proposed legislation is that vehicle manufacturers will also be allowed to average the emissions across the model range, so selling a range of EV's could offset the higher emission vehicles on offer.

    Good point about the emissions from manufacture. It would be interesting to see what modeling the government have undertaken to determine whether forcing fleet upgrades in NZ to meet stringent new emissions standards has a net positive environmental effect, or do we not care since the manufacturing takes place in another country and therefore is a problem for someone else to deal with?

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    I am sure I read somewhere recently that the "new" standard set for vehicle emissions in NZ was achieved by Japan in 2014 & EU in 2020

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    I am sure I read somewhere recently that the "new" standard set for vehicle emissions in NZ was achieved by Japan in 2014 & EU in 2020
    The 2020 standard in Japan is the 105g/100km that we are proposing to achieve in 2025, however this value is an average across the model range, so there are numerous non-compliant models from each manufacturer. For example, the 2.0L 2021 Honda Accord Hybrid emits about 100g/100km (lower than required), however the 2021 Honda Civic (non hybrid) exceeds the standard at about 140g/100km.

    Japan also has a graduated fuel efficiency scale according to weight, while the EU appears to mandate fleet-wide average fuel efficiency standards broken up by vehicle type (truck/bus, passenger car etc.) We haven't seen the details of what the government are proposing yet, but I would expect the system here will be similar to these.

    Other nations have however had far longer to reduce emissions that what is being proposed for us. Again using the Japanese CO2 target example (although don't forget the standards also regulate CO, NOx etc.), in 1995 the standard was 188g/100km with the next step being 153g/100km in 2010 some 15 years later and 23% lower.

    What the government here are proposing is to implement a 40% change over to 2025, so we'll need mass adoption of hybrid and EV's for manufacturers to comply. Some manufacturers may exit the market, while others will need to adjust their supply chains to source from Japan or the Eu rather than Thailand etc. further driving up costs.

    The Australian government hasn't mandated any changes to emissions standards, so it appears the vehicle manufactures have done it themselves, while using additional tools such as carry forward debits and credits. It's complicated.

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