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    Rose Byrne to play New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern in film based on Christchurch mosque shootings

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaphod View Post
    Rose Byrne to play New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern in film based on Christchurch mosque shootings

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainmen...sque-shootings
    So what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    So what?
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    Perhaps someone is interested? Do you have anything to contribute?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaphod View Post
    Perhaps someone is interested? Do you have anything to contribute?
    No. Do you? What might someone be interested in? The actress chosen? The fact that someone is making a movie? This thread is titled Labour govt 2020 to 23. And just like Panda's post, prior to yours, there is nothing relavent to that in your post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    No. Do you? What might someone be interested in? The actress chosen? The fact that someone is making a movie? This thread is titled Labour govt 2020 to 23. And just like Panda's post, prior to yours, there is nothing relavent to that in your post.
    Perhaps the fact that the PM is receiving such glowing accolades, and now has a movie depicting her role in this event? Great for Labour party publicity isn't it, and perfectly relevant to the thread. If you don't agree then just do what everyone else does for posts they feel are irrelevant to them and ignore the post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaphod View Post
    Perhaps the fact that the PM is receiving such glowing accolades, and now has a movie depicting her role in this event? Great for Labour party publicity isn't it, and perfectly relevant to the thread. If you don't agree then just do what everyone else does for posts they feel are irrelevant to them and ignore the post.

    The fact is all the work was done by police and emergency services and would happen exactly the same way if a monkey was PM. Jacinda only reaped the credit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peetter View Post
    The fact is all the work was done by police and emergency services and would happen exactly the same way if a monkey was PM. Jacinda only reaped the credit.
    Pretty sad comment and quite off the mark. Is this who you are?

    Clearly this is not about what the police and the emergency services did during and short after the attacks (which obviously has little to do with who is PM at current), but about the messages and communication of the PM in the aftermath of the disaster.

    Just compare how e.g. sick bastards like e.g. Trump or Johnson used similar racist murders in their respective countries to further divide their people, while Jacinda Adern did a lot to acknowledge the atrocities, to unify the people and to help and reassure the families of the victims and the attacked population group.

    While I am not in general a fan of her - her leadership after this terrible terror attack was second to none.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPeter View Post
    Pretty sad comment and quite off the mark. Is this who you are?

    Clearly this is not about what the police and the emergency services did during and short after the attacks (which obviously has little to do with who is PM at current), but about the messages and communication of the PM in the aftermath of the disaster.

    Just compare how e.g. sick bastards like e.g. Trump or Johnson used similar racist murders in their respective countries to further divide their people, while Jacinda Adern did a lot to acknowledge the atrocities, to unify the people and to help and reassure the families of the victims and the attacked population group.

    While I am not in general a fan of her - her leadership after this terrible terror attack was second to none.

    It is exactly what I think. I don't see it as unifying effort. All I see is publicity stunt. But even then I am not going to stoop so low as to call her "sick bastard" like you'd do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPeter View Post
    Pretty sad comment and quite off the mark. Is this who you are?

    Clearly this is not about what the police and the emergency services did during and short after the attacks (which obviously has little to do with who is PM at current), but about the messages and communication of the PM in the aftermath of the disaster.

    Just compare how e.g. sick bastards like e.g. Trump or Johnson used similar racist murders in their respective countries to further divide their people, while Jacinda Adern did a lot to acknowledge the atrocities, to unify the people and to help and reassure the families of the victims and the attacked population group.

    While I am not in general a fan of her - her leadership after this terrible terror attack was second to none.

    The crims Labour locked up will be sent to "Serco" probably.

    National doesn't believe we can run anything even a rather basic prison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peetter View Post
    The fact is all the work was done by police and emergency services and would happen exactly the same way if a monkey was PM. Jacinda only reaped the credit.
    Pretty sad comment and quite off the mark. Is this who you are?

    Clearly this is not about what the police and the emergency services did during and short after the attacks (which obviously has little to do with who is PM at current), but about the messages and communication of the PM in the aftermath of the disaster.

    Just compare how e.g. sick bastards like e.g. Trump or Johnson used similar racist murders in their respective countries to further divide their people, while Jacinda Adern did a lot to acknowledge the atrocities, to unify the people and to help and reassure the families of the victims and the attacked population group.

    While I am not in general a fan of her - her leadership after this terrible terror attack was second to none.
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    The initial response was excellent especially from the front line workers who put their lives on the line, however elements of the gun control reform, censorship and aspects of the Christchurch Call are debatable. Have we really unified the nation through these events? I don't think so. But it's likely that Ardern will win another term on the back of this, the massive amount of unfinished reforms, and a weak opposition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaphod View Post
    The initial response was excellent especially from the front line workers who put their lives on the line, however elements of the gun control reform, censorship and aspects of the Christchurch Call are debatable. Have we really unified the nation through these events? I don't think so. But it's likely that Ardern will win another term on the back of this, the massive amount of unfinished reforms, and a weak opposition.
    I suspect its likely she won't win another term based on Labours lack of delivery on numerous counts. Plenty of national voters apparantly protest voted in Labours favour last election, I don't think they will be in the mood to repeat that result next time.

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    I voted Labour but am currently pretty disappointed about a few of their decisions. Having said that, unless something changes drastically between now and the next election, National have no chance of getting my vote. Which will present me with a bit of a conundrum.

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    I suspect its likely she won't win another term based on Labours lack of delivery on numerous counts. Plenty of national voters apparantly protest voted in Labours favour last election, I don't think they will be in the mood to repeat that result next time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by justakiwi View Post
    I voted Labour but am currently pretty disappointed about a few of their decisions. Having said that, unless something changes drastically between now and the next election, National have no chance of getting my vote. Which will present me with a bit of a conundrum.
    I would vote for the forementioned monkey, in fact any monkey before a voted for this socialist lot. Their true colours are now becoming quite apparant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ynot View Post
    I suspect its likely she won't win another term based on Labours lack of delivery on numerous counts. Plenty of national voters apparantly protest voted in Labours favour last election, I don't think they will be in the mood to repeat that result next time.
    She will certainly win a third term assuming she stands again. She may not have much beyond her charisma, but that alone is doing the trick for her - along with the fact National don't seem to be in a hurry to dump Collins, who will never make P.M.
    A sufficient number of voters are blind to the fact Labour's ranks are bulging at the seams with dead-beats. They are dazzled by the sparkle and shine radiating from Jacinda's halo - and she does know how to polish it.
    There is always the possibility of seeing her take an overseas post with the U.N. or similar. Although any such arrangement will be kept well under wraps until after the next election. If you see Deputy Kelvin replaced before the next election, you'll know what's coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ynot View Post
    I suspect its likely she won't win another term based on Labours lack of delivery on numerous counts. Plenty of national voters apparantly protest voted in Labours favour last election, I don't think they will be in the mood to repeat that result next time.
    Deleted - I got two posts for the price of one.
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    I am mostly happy with Labour. But a couple of their recent decisions have disappointed me.

    I do not however, agree, with your sentiment that “anyone would be better than what we have got.” National have done nothing whatsoever to even remotely interest me, let alone impress me. Collins has done National no favours, and quite possibly, more than a bit of damage. They need to lose her before the next election, or they don’t stand a chance.



    Quote Originally Posted by ynot View Post
    I would vote for the forementioned monkey, in fact any monkey before a voted for this socialist lot. Their true colours are now becoming quite apparant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ynot View Post
    I suspect its likely she won't win another term based on Labours lack of delivery on numerous counts. Plenty of national voters apparantly protest voted in Labours favour last election, I don't think they will be in the mood to repeat that result next time.
    Yes I tend to agree with you. At this point I think it's highly likely Labour won't receive the votes they did last time, but on the back of "let's get this finished" (i.e. the numerous large-scale reforms, covid recovery etc.) they will probably receive enough to form a government in coalition with the Greens, which would most likely spell the end of their term.

    It really depends upon how the next few years pan out, and I'm not confident that Labour can deliver on the proposed reforms within the current electoral term. What the voter will think of all this? Who knows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ynot View Post
    I would vote for the forementioned monkey, in fact any monkey before a voted for this socialist lot. Their true colours are now becoming quite apparant.
    Strong economy & corona free NZ doesn't mean anything does it..?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    Strong economy & corona free NZ doesn't mean anything does it..?
    As I said, under the circumstances that fell into Labours lap last election, ie covid, the monkey could have achieved the same result.

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