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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    Balance you inadvertently cut the "s" off the end of your 2nd link which makes it not work. You may want to edit it
    For DIYers If you have a look to the right of A on your keyboard, there's an s there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    Balance you inadvertently cut the "s" off the end of your 2nd link which makes it not work. You may want to edit it
    Done - thx & cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Read carefully :

    "If all NZers are vaccinated by say, end of April - NZ would be able to be opened up for international tourism and allow in visitors from relatively covid-free countries (think China & Oz) and those who are vaccinated."

    That's the whole basis of the TransTasman travel bubble to be announced :

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...45TDS62M4FB7A/

    and the recent controlled opening up of Poland & China to vaccinated visitors.

    And some tourism dependent countries are already implementing the vaccination travel rules to allow in tourists :

    https://www.afar.com/magazine/travel...hese-countries

    First link made 0 mention of tourists being vaccinated. It just talk about a time when the borders will open up.

    Second link again, all dependent on the vaccine roll out in those other countries who plan to start traveling. Croatia opening doors for those that are vaccinated. As I mentioned before, what reason does NZ have to be quickly vaccinated ? My guess would be NZ residents wanting to visit abroad - but that's of no benefit to the NZ economy (those who spend their tourist $$ abroad).

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    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/chris-...533QORUPOXTUE/

    Paywalled

    So why is Cindy & MOH not sharing the vaccination numbers & rollout data with NZers?

    The team of incompetents is attempting to hide the fact that other countries are charging ahead while NZ has gone from head of the vaccine queue to the very last in the OECD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/chris-...533QORUPOXTUE/

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    So why is Cindy & MOH not sharing the vaccination numbers & rollout data with NZers?

    The team of incompetents is attempting to hide the fact that other countries are charging ahead while NZ has gone from head of the vaccine queue to the very last in the OECD.
    Because the program is a complete disaster. Totally unprepared both on the ground and haven't even developed software to report the data. Once again caught completely out of their depths these bl..dy incompetents. 52k people have received a jab in 45 days since vaccinations started, which is disgraceful while other countries are racing ahead. USA inviting everyone over 16 to have a jab from 19 April and we haven't even done our frontline staff.
    This is a further huge damage to our tourism industry which will miss a lot of the pent up demand Worldwide for travel as we will not be ready when most of the World will start travelling again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    Because the program is a complete disaster. Totally unprepared both on the ground and haven't even developed software to report the data. Once again caught completely out of their depths these bl..dy incompetents. 52k people have received a jab in 45 days since vaccinations started, which is disgraceful while other countries are racing ahead. USA inviting everyone over 16 to have a jab from 19 April and we haven't even done our frontline staff.
    This is a further huge damage to our tourism industry which will miss a lot of the pent up demand Worldwide for travel as we will not be ready when most of the World will start travelling again.
    Are you sure only 52k have had the vaccination? I heard a figure of 96k on HDA drive show tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tim23 View Post
    Are you sure only 52k have had the vaccination? I heard a figure of 96k on HDA drive show tonight.
    According to the above article:
    "A Ministry of Health spokesperson responds to the Herald, confirming that 52,183 people have received one or more doses of the vaccine."

    This was on 1 April which is the last update the Herald has received. The whole article is about how difficult it is to get regular updates which is pathetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    According to the above article:
    "A Ministry of Health spokesperson responds to the Herald, confirming that 52,183 people have received one or more doses of the vaccine."

    This was on 1 April which is the last update the Herald has received. The whole article is about how difficult it is to get regular updates which is pathetic.
    Thanks - does seem on the light side though.

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    tim23 I see just reading some articles now that it appears it is now up to around 90,000, or "only" 300,000 short of the plan according to a leaked MOH report. But why is this information not easily accessible and updated daily or every couple of days like many other countries , rather than media having to speculate ? Particularly from a Government that claims to be the most transparent ever !

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    More excellence and transparency from our magnificent government

    https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/natio...?ocid=msedgntp

    No surprise that Little is in the the thick of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonu View Post
    More excellence and transparency from our magnificent government

    https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/natio...?ocid=msedgntp

    No surprise that Little is in the the thick of it.
    You need to dig a little deeper.
    Was covered in Parliament at question time and covered well.
    One persons opinion does not make a fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dobby41 View Post
    You need to dig a little deeper.
    Was covered in Parliament at question time and covered well.
    One persons opinion does not make a fact.
    Little was quoted in the Newshub piece. His responses did "Little" to satisfy me.

    I reckon the Mental Health Foundation is well placed to call BS when they see it.

    This government's arrogance is breathtaking. Matched only by the blind adherence of its advocates. Wake up and smell the coffee dobby41. Ardern, Robertson, Little et al, have shafted their voter base in almost every measurable respect.

    Labour was once the Party of the Working Class and Underdog. Now Labour spends its time treading them further into the mud. Whether by incompetence or ambition is hard to judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonu View Post
    Little was quoted in the Newshub piece. His responses did "Little" to satisfy me.
    I wouldn't expect any response to satisfy you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dobby41 View Post
    I wouldn't expect any response to satisfy you!
    Perhaps you could regale us with how Cindy and her lot have had net gains for their voter base? Bearing in mind raises in minimum wage and benefit increases are a nett loss on rising housing costs alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    tim23 I see just reading some articles now that it appears it is now up to around 90,000, or "only" 300,000 short of the plan according to a leaked MOH report. But why is this information not easily accessible and updated daily or every couple of days like many other countries , rather than media having to speculate ? Particularly from a Government that claims to be the most transparent ever !
    Vaccination data is available online, no need for speculation
    https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/...9-vaccine-data

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    tim23 I see just reading some articles now that it appears it is now up to around 90,000, or "only" 300,000 short of the plan according to a leaked MOH report. But why is this information not easily accessible and updated daily or every couple of days like many other countries , rather than media having to speculate ? Particularly from a Government that claims to be the most transparent ever !
    Yes I read in Dompost today - either way we agree its a bit on the light side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonu View Post
    Perhaps you could regale us with how Cindy and her lot have had net gains for their voter base? Bearing in mind raises in minimum wage and benefit increases are a nett loss on rising housing costs alone.
    Well at least these increases help people at the bottom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonu View Post
    Perhaps you could regale us with how Cindy and her lot have had net gains for their voter base? Bearing in mind raises in minimum wage and benefit increases are a nett loss on rising housing costs alone.
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/h...ovincial-areas

    Welcome to Cindy’s solution to housing shortage - $1 billion every 3 months in accommodation support - while rental increases go up through the roof.

    Smart girl - helping landlords to make more money using taxpayers’ funds!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tim23 View Post
    Well at least these increases help people at the bottom.
    Do they? Such measures are inflationary, and inflation most often benefits the well off, but punishes the less well off and lower paid. It's done to garner votes from the hoi polloi who generally don't feel the huge vacuum as they are sucked in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    Do they? Such measures are inflationary, and inflation most often benefits the well off, but punishes the less well off and lower paid. It's done to garner votes from the hoi polloi who generally don't feel the huge vacuum as they are sucked in.
    Exactly.

    Labour plays to the ignorant - feeds their greed & hunger with handouts for their votes.

    Breeds them like multiplying mice to be dependent Labour voters.
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