Labour govt 2020-23

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He's determined to outArdern Ardern.

I think we need a new colloquialism in this country. We could call outright bullshi^^ery Arderning. That Hipkins, he's Arderning again. What an Arderner!

I classify Ardern as the most dangerous evil liar to ever enter Parliament!

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Census shambles, and this is despite the TV ads which are continuing to run 24/7. This census is costing double the last one, but it looks as though - once again - the government has ‘failed Māori‘.

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‘A leading Māori demographer says Statistics New Zealand needs to adopt a wider whānau approach to improve collection of census data from and about Māori and Pacific populations.

Professor Tahu Kukutai from Waikato University’s Te Ngira Institute for Population Research says Stats NZ learned a lot from the troubled 2018 Census, where responses fell to 83 per cent.

The 2023 census is tracking even worse as it operates in a low trust environment with a lot of disinformation in the community.

As of last week, one in five people had not completed their forms. For people of Māori and Pacific descent, that figure is two in five.’

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‘This year's Census is expected to cost about $259 million, more than double what the last Census cost. Stats NZ says that's because they're using more paper, they've got more accessible formats (ie sign language, large print, braille and audio) and there'll be more collectors out on the streets.’

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Five years on from the last disastrous tally, the 2023 census will focus on delivering for iwi and Māori with a raft of changes to ensure it gets it right – says the group tasked with delivering the survey.

Stats NZ says this year will have twice as many census engagement staff than in 2018, with more than half being Māori; as well as a fully bilingual census website, census forms, and other support available in te reo Māori.

Data collected in the census has the potential to create a real and positive difference for whānau, hapū, and iwi,” said Simon Mason, deputy chief executive of census and collection operations.

“We did not deliver well enough for Māori and iwi in the 2018 census, including consulting and engaging on how data was collected and how we could have supported Māori to participate.”

A flagship initiative for the 2023 census is Te Mana Whakatupu, an iwi-led data analytics and collections pilot, led by Te Kāhui Raraunga, the operating arm of the Data Iwi Leaders Group.

As part of this, iwi collectives in Te Tai Tokerau and Tairawhiti, and Te Whānau ā Apanui, will collect responses to the census from whānau in their rohe.

Rahui Papa, co-chair of Pou-Tāngata and chair of Data ILG said there will be cultural, social and economic benefits for iwi, such as improving the health and wellbeing of whānau.

“It is also a vital source of information for our iwi business and to develop investment plans that will deliver for our people.”

And after all that, the 2023 response from Maori will be the same, and the excuse will always be; We weren't consulted.
Apathy, caused by looked after well by the system, despite what some may have you believe.

[davflaws]

Apathy, caused by looked after well by the system, despite what some may have you believe.

If Maori are being "looked after well by the system" why are they disproportionately poor and disproportionately towards the bottom of all the social statistics?

[fungus pudding]

If Maori are being "looked after well by the system" why are they disproportionately poor and disproportionately towards the bottom of all the social statistics?

Maybe they have different aspirations.
Maybe they have different motivation factors.
I think you know the answer.

[davflaws]

Maybe they have different aspirations.
Maybe they have different motivation factors.
I think you know the answer.

My experience working in Education and Health and Justice in Te Taitokerau for forty odd years has certainly informed my thinking on the question - but I was reacting to Getty's rhetoric.

In relation to your answer above re different aspirations and motivation - it shifts any responsibility for the "problem" onto Maori and relieves everyone else of any responsibility to change and improve "the system". That may make you (and others) feel better, but doesn't do much to effect change.

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My experience working in Education and Health and Justice in Te Taitokerau for forty odd years has certainly informed my thinking on the question - but I was reacting to Getty's rhetoric.

In relation to your answer above re different aspirations and motivation - it shifts any responsibility for the "problem" onto Maori and relieves everyone else of any responsibility to change and improve "the system". That may make you (and others) feel better, but doesn't do much to effect change.

But doesn't do much to effect change.

Good choice of words, but whose court is the ball in?

You will bounce it out of there, into the colonials court, as usual.

Twice as many Census people, with more than 50% of them being Maori, to engage 15% of the people, assuming they reach all.

What does this say?

[jonu]

Bryce Edwards exposing the Disinformation Project's exponential hyperbole....And its failure to hold the government to account on being a misinformation/disinformation spreader. Gee, I wonder why? Couldn't be to do with the Dept of the PM's funding? And their ever increasing hyperbole apparently touting for business now that the funding has dried up! (As Edwards notes, they have given no evidence to back their ever more alarmist claims)

https://mailchi.mp/democracyproject/...y?e=89627acd5b

Ardern's fingerprints all over it! Divide and rule. Sow fear and manipulate the populace. Cynical and disgusting.

[Logen Ninefingers]

This government is wasting billions and billions of dollars, and unfortunately for NZ there is virtually nothing to show for it. Our ageing existing infrastructure is falling apart at the seams, while many billions disappear into the doomed Auckland CRL black hole and the government lines up another multi-billion dollar vanity project in Auckland in the form of ‘light rail’.
Meanwhile, look at a place like Tauranga: population exploding, legions of elderly, but still just the one old hospital which sadly is desperately struggling to cope with the demands placed on it.
We are heading for a total health and health infrastructure debacle because the fundamental needs of the population are not being met. Health is as basic and fundamental as in gets. This government has had no plan for delivering better health outcomes other than shovelling billions into the pockets of consultants and managers and undertaking expensive restructuring exercises that produce nothing in the way of improved services for ailing Kiwi’s.

[nztx]

But doesn't do much to effect change.

Good choice of words, but whose court is the ball in?

You will bounce it out of there, into the colonials court, as usual.

Twice as many Census people, with more than 50% of them being Maori, to engage 15% of the people, assuming they reach all.

What does this say?

Gotta make sure all that Kai put on table for Census bods afternoon tea gets put down
a hatch my friend .. the more da merrier .. after all who is paying for checking all the forms
get marked the correct way, duly blessed in traditional way and not used for something else ?

Do they get sent out with plenty of spares or is the remuneration strictly on a "Bring your
own wipes" basis with full instructions for correct use ?

Supply of free laptops to the outer hinterlands must be still difficult or have free promo broadband
jobs for the great unwashed & computer challenged run out .. just in time for Census ?

[Logen Ninefingers]

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...IQUFLL26NM4JQ/

‘The Māori Health Authority (Te Aka Whai Ora) is spending more than $1.15 million a month on contractors and consultants, newly released figures show.’