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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    ASX components:

    https://www.asx200list.com/

    Most of the innovation there is from us, or america.
    Something in the water which makes them incapable of it lol.
    In terms of innovation in America, most companies are likely be situation or listed in the US, so let's narrow this down by excluding Canada and the countries in South America.

    Your logic appears to be:
    1. All (or at least the vast majority) of innovative companies are listed on the ASX.
    2. There are (apparently) more NZ companies on this list therefore we are more innovative.

    What about the confounding variables, including:
    1. How the ASX200 list is defined
    2. What defines an innovative businesses
    3. Innovative companies below the top 200
    4. Non listed innovative companies in each country
    5. Innovative companies listed in foreign markets (for example, perhaps the trend is for Australian companies to list in the US or Europe)

    You can't draw any meaningful conclusions about innovation in NZ v Australia from a list of ASX200 participants.
    Last edited by Zaphod; 29-05-2021 at 10:46 AM.

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    If you don’t want to live in a country where there are two governments and where the tribal elite clip the ticket and Maori sovereignty activists call the shots, you should sign this petition.
    https://www.hobsonspledge.nz/reject_...uiter_id=18761

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    Someone just forwarded the following to me. No doubt it's doing the rounds by email - I have no idea who wrote it, no names or identification - but it's interesting.







    MEDIA MUST BE DECEITFUL ABOUT TREATY AS A CONDITION OF FUNDING

    Are you wondering why NZ’s media has suddenly gone crazy on Maori language and other Maori issues? The answer is simple. MONEY. YOUR MONEY, GIVEN TO THEM BY ARDERN.
    Most shockingly, it’s all part of Labour’s nefarious plan to install a part-Maori ‘partnership’ government as indicated by the recently revealed He Puapua document.
    In order to qualify for these government grants (Labour’s rescue package) media have to jump through hoops, and one of those hoops is embracing the ideology of the radical part-Maori separatists who make up a large part of the Labour government.
    To get their grubby grasping hands on the $55 million in the second tranche of funding for “Public Interest Journalism”, media must agree to staff training in “Te Tiriti Education”.
    Journalism funded under the scheme must “actively promote the principles of Partnership, Participation and Active Protection under Te Tiriti o Waitangi acknowledging part-Māori as a Te Tiriti partner.”
    Get it? IN ORDER TO QUALIFY FOR THE HAND-OUTS, media must acknowledge and perpetuate propaganda identifying the Treaty of Waitangi as the basis for a ‘partnership’.
    This ‘partnership’ claim of course is completely false. A total deception. There was never any partnership proposed in the treaty.
    This question of media independence has assumed greater significance since this government launched their new public interest journalism project.

    Ardern and her part-Maori caucus are extorting the New Zealand media to indulge in mistruths, falsehoods and fabrications and the New Zealand media are so cravenly unprincipled, broke and worthless, they’re happy to do so. This is a clear direction for the use of these part-Maori separatist radicals.
    The first eligibility requirement listed in the application advice package is --
    “Actively promote the principles of Partnership, Participation and Active Protection under Te Tiriti o Waitangi acknowledging Maori as a Te Tiriti partner”.
    So this is why the media are now inundating the public with Maori language, culture, and endless lies about the fabricated Treaty partnership – because they are being paid by this Government to do so?
    How can this possibly be seen as anything but a corruption of media independence – turning what used to be our Fourth Estate into a Government propaganda machine.
    It is truly disgraceful. As well, there are requirements for staffing.
    Appropriate people attached to the project are in leadership roles who can manage and advise on these cultural and spiritual aspects of the production at critical stages (e.g. research, language advisors)
    Now we know what Broadcast Minister Kris Faafoi was telling the media when he visited every newsroom in the country prior to the last election.
    TO SUMMARISE, the Ardern govt and the NZ media (by means of dollars taken from you) are combined in an illegitimate de-facto government who are really controlled by the part-Maori caucus of Labour, and they are intent on pushing the ‘partnership’ structure as the rightful government of NZ. In other words, a complete standing on its head of our current Westminster based democracy.
    Would 52% of NZers have voted for Labour in the 2020 election if they had known this truth? Very doubtful.
    The country has been deceived and conned by Ardern in the worst possible way and the NZ media are complicit in this charade, boots and all. SHAME ON THEM ALL.

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    Just shows you how quickly things can deterorate in the wrong hands. Until recently I always believed corrupt governments were of 3rd world origins. Apparently not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    Someone just forwarded the following to me. No doubt it's doing the rounds by email - I have no idea who wrote it, no names or identification - but it's interesting.







    MEDIA MUST BE DECEITFUL ABOUT TREATY AS A CONDITION OF FUNDING

    Are you wondering why NZ’s media has suddenly gone crazy on Maori language and other Maori issues? The answer is simple. MONEY. YOUR MONEY, GIVEN TO THEM BY ARDERN.
    Most shockingly, it’s all part of Labour’s nefarious plan to install a part-Maori ‘partnership’ government as indicated by the recently revealed He Puapua document.
    In order to qualify for these government grants (Labour’s rescue package) media have to jump through hoops, and one of those hoops is embracing the ideology of the radical part-Maori separatists who make up a large part of the Labour government.
    To get their grubby grasping hands on the $55 million in the second tranche of funding for “Public Interest Journalism”, media must agree to staff training in “Te Tiriti Education”.
    Journalism funded under the scheme must “actively promote the principles of Partnership, Participation and Active Protection under Te Tiriti o Waitangi acknowledging part-Māori as a Te Tiriti partner.”
    Get it? IN ORDER TO QUALIFY FOR THE HAND-OUTS, media must acknowledge and perpetuate propaganda identifying the Treaty of Waitangi as the basis for a ‘partnership’.
    This ‘partnership’ claim of course is completely false. A total deception. There was never any partnership proposed in the treaty.
    This question of media independence has assumed greater significance since this government launched their new public interest journalism project.

    Ardern and her part-Maori caucus are extorting the New Zealand media to indulge in mistruths, falsehoods and fabrications and the New Zealand media are so cravenly unprincipled, broke and worthless, they’re happy to do so. This is a clear direction for the use of these part-Maori separatist radicals.
    The first eligibility requirement listed in the application advice package is --
    “Actively promote the principles of Partnership, Participation and Active Protection under Te Tiriti o Waitangi acknowledging Maori as a Te Tiriti partner”.
    So this is why the media are now inundating the public with Maori language, culture, and endless lies about the fabricated Treaty partnership – because they are being paid by this Government to do so?
    How can this possibly be seen as anything but a corruption of media independence – turning what used to be our Fourth Estate into a Government propaganda machine.
    It is truly disgraceful. As well, there are requirements for staffing.
    Appropriate people attached to the project are in leadership roles who can manage and advise on these cultural and spiritual aspects of the production at critical stages (e.g. research, language advisors)
    Now we know what Broadcast Minister Kris Faafoi was telling the media when he visited every newsroom in the country prior to the last election.
    TO SUMMARISE, the Ardern govt and the NZ media (by means of dollars taken from you) are combined in an illegitimate de-facto government who are really controlled by the part-Maori caucus of Labour, and they are intent on pushing the ‘partnership’ structure as the rightful government of NZ. In other words, a complete standing on its head of our current Westminster based democracy.
    Would 52% of NZers have voted for Labour in the 2020 election if they had known this truth? Very doubtful.
    The country has been deceived and conned by Ardern in the worst possible way and the NZ media are complicit in this charade, boots and all. SHAME ON THEM ALL.
    I have no way of knowing how accurate this is. I certainly can't rely on Mainstream Media to report on it.

    Whether true or not, the State bailouts in an election year were perhaps the most blatant bribes in this county's history.

    I have noticed that both Stuff and The Herald websites now carry specialist Maori issues sections. Stuff in particular is full noise woke on any issue you can name, the Herald is not far behind. The indoctrination of Post-modern Marxism that has been prevalent in the Universities for 20-30 years, is spreading into all levels of education, largely unchallenged. Most of our MPs have come through the University system and take it as the norm. Ardern lives and breathes it.

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    Double posted. This website still has major tech issues.
    Last edited by jonu; 02-06-2021 at 11:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    Someone just forwarded the following to me. No doubt it's doing the rounds by email - I have no idea who wrote it, no names or identification - but it's interesting.







    MEDIA MUST BE DECEITFUL ABOUT TREATY AS A CONDITION OF FUNDING

    Are you wondering why NZ’s media has suddenly gone crazy on Maori language and other Maori issues? The answer is simple. MONEY. YOUR MONEY, GIVEN TO THEM BY ARDERN.
    Most shockingly, it’s all part of Labour’s nefarious plan to install a part-Maori ‘partnership’ government as indicated by the recently revealed He Puapua document.
    In order to qualify for these government grants (Labour’s rescue package) media have to jump through hoops, and one of those hoops is embracing the ideology of the radical part-Maori separatists who make up a large part of the Labour government.
    To get their grubby grasping hands on the $55 million in the second tranche of funding for “Public Interest Journalism”, media must agree to staff training in “Te Tiriti Education”.
    Journalism funded under the scheme must “actively promote the principles of Partnership, Participation and Active Protection under Te Tiriti o Waitangi acknowledging part-Māori as a Te Tiriti partner.”
    Get it? IN ORDER TO QUALIFY FOR THE HAND-OUTS, media must acknowledge and perpetuate propaganda identifying the Treaty of Waitangi as the basis for a ‘partnership’.
    This ‘partnership’ claim of course is completely false. A total deception. There was never any partnership proposed in the treaty.
    This question of media independence has assumed greater significance since this government launched their new public interest journalism project.

    Ardern and her part-Maori caucus are extorting the New Zealand media to indulge in mistruths, falsehoods and fabrications and the New Zealand media are so cravenly unprincipled, broke and worthless, they’re happy to do so. This is a clear direction for the use of these part-Maori separatist radicals.
    The first eligibility requirement listed in the application advice package is --
    “Actively promote the principles of Partnership, Participation and Active Protection under Te Tiriti o Waitangi acknowledging Maori as a Te Tiriti partner”.
    So this is why the media are now inundating the public with Maori language, culture, and endless lies about the fabricated Treaty partnership – because they are being paid by this Government to do so?
    How can this possibly be seen as anything but a corruption of media independence – turning what used to be our Fourth Estate into a Government propaganda machine.
    It is truly disgraceful. As well, there are requirements for staffing.
    Appropriate people attached to the project are in leadership roles who can manage and advise on these cultural and spiritual aspects of the production at critical stages (e.g. research, language advisors)
    Now we know what Broadcast Minister Kris Faafoi was telling the media when he visited every newsroom in the country prior to the last election.
    TO SUMMARISE, the Ardern govt and the NZ media (by means of dollars taken from you) are combined in an illegitimate de-facto government who are really controlled by the part-Maori caucus of Labour, and they are intent on pushing the ‘partnership’ structure as the rightful government of NZ. In other words, a complete standing on its head of our current Westminster based democracy.
    Would 52% of NZers have voted for Labour in the 2020 election if they had known this truth? Very doubtful.
    The country has been deceived and conned by Ardern in the worst possible way and the NZ media are complicit in this charade, boots and all. SHAME ON THEM ALL.
    Although one must be careful about unauthored articles, the basic observations regretfully are probably correct. I was reading about the NZ Green Party explanation of why they are revisiting the co-leadership model, Chloe Swarbrick indicated they should have a Te Tirit or Trans co leadership model,(????).
    I am not sure what irritates me more these days, the drivel coming from our politicians or the fact that I have to help pay their salaries. If you read some of their bio details I suspect many of them have not had to work in their entire lives. Just my rant, what are others opinions/.

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    National did shady deals with the Maori party even though they didn't need their support (at all).

    Labour put in the foreshore and seabead act (2004) which many of these "activists" weren't happy about. I think that both sides have their own glaring issues on this topic.
    Last edited by Panda-NZ-; 02-06-2021 at 10:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    National did shady deals with the maori party even though they didn't need their support (at all).

    Labour put in the foreshore and seabead act (2004) which many of these "activists" weren't happy about.
    Both sides have their issues on this.
    It wasn't the Nats who bribed Mainstream Media with 10s of millions of dollars to promote their agenda. All the while, Ardern was appearing on the 1pm daily propaganda briefing. Sad times.

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    The media called the changes to law 'controversial' back then for some reason.

    So I suppose they were retrospectively influenced by woke agendas in 2004?

    It looked fine to me - I think all citizens here own the land not selective groups -- tribal or private. Definately not "no one".
    Last edited by Panda-NZ-; 03-06-2021 at 01:13 AM.

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