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02-06-2021, 01:04 PM
#1161
Originally Posted by Panda-NZ-
The media called the changes to law "controversial" back then for some reason.
Unless they were retrospectively w0ke why did they call the 2004 changes controversial?
It looked fine to me -- every citizen owns private land not selective groups.
That's because you have no understanding of what you are talking about. They were controversial enough to lose Labour the Maori seats they had held for 50+ years. Now Ardern can't bend over far enough to accommodate her Maori caucus for fear of it happening again.
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02-06-2021, 01:12 PM
#1162
$50m to the media supposedly.
Still far less than the $1b+ Finlayson handed over for no apparent reason.
Then we have this wonderful pro-Iwi legislation:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine...oana)_Act_2011
If no one owns property then it doesn't exist legally..
So anyone can place an oil site or improvised landfill there I suppose.
Last edited by Panda-NZ-; 03-06-2021 at 01:08 AM.
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02-06-2021, 01:33 PM
#1163
Originally Posted by Panda-NZ-
$50m to the media supposely. Still far less than the $1b+ Finlayson handed over for no reason.
50 million was just the first tranche....in Election Year! Now they are handing over more. I have no idea what your Finlayson remark is referring to. Like many of your posts unfortunately.
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03-06-2021, 09:37 AM
#1164
Originally Posted by jonu
I have no way of knowing how accurate this is. I certainly can't rely on Mainstream Media to report on it.
Whether true or not, the State bailouts in an election year were perhaps the most blatant bribes in this county's history.
I have noticed that both Stuff and The Herald websites now carry specialist Maori issues sections. Stuff in particular is full noise woke on any issue you can name, the Herald is not far behind. The indoctrination of Post-modern Marxism that has been prevalent in the Universities for 20-30 years, is spreading into all levels of education, largely unchallenged. Most of our MPs have come through the University system and take it as the norm. Ardern lives and breathes it.
Just to emphasise....Here's Margaret Mutu playing the victim card in the Class Struggle.
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/natio...?ocid=msedgntp
Ms Mutu has done very well for someone so oppressed. She also appears to ignore the parts of her whakapapa that don't suit her victim mentality. As for the "Doctrine of Discovery".... more classic Marxism. Those European explorers were able to do what they did through superior technology and were hunting Resources, not souls, though they often dressed it differently. This, by the way, was no different from those Maori that went on the rampage once they gained European technology.
All this is not to say that Maori in many instances were not screwed over, or that Racism does not exist in this country. It's just interesting that Maori grievance industry leaders don't seem interested in inter-Maori conflicts where the barbarism was far worse than anything inflicted by Colonial powers.
If Ms Mutu's version of History is what Ardern wants taught in schools (I suspect it is) be prepared for your children to emerge Marxist.
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03-06-2021, 12:28 PM
#1165
Originally Posted by jonu
Just to emphasise....Here's Margaret Mutu playing the victim card in the Class Struggle.
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/natio...?ocid=msedgntp
Ms Mutu has done very well for someone so oppressed. She also appears to ignore the parts of her whakapapa that don't suit her victim mentality. As for the "Doctrine of Discovery".... more classic Marxism. Those European explorers were able to do what they did through superior technology and were hunting Resources, not souls, though they often dressed it differently. This, by the way, was no different from those Maori that went on the rampage once they gained European technology.
All this is not to say that Maori in many instances were not screwed over, or that Racism does not exist in this country. It's just interesting that Maori grievance industry leaders don't seem interested in inter-Maori conflicts where the barbarism was far worse than anything inflicted by Colonial powers.
If Ms Mutu's version of History is what Ardern wants taught in schools (I suspect it is) be prepared for your children to emerge Marxist.
Well said.
Most people paint the picture they want to be seen and ignore inconvenient truths.
I don't, at all, agree with your conclusion though.
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03-06-2021, 12:40 PM
#1166
The extinction of the moa and beutiful haast eagle were on maori.
The claims by some that Maori were good environmental guardians or "stewards" is rather unfounded given this history.
Last edited by Panda-NZ-; 04-06-2021 at 07:53 PM.
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03-06-2021, 01:14 PM
#1167
We can bring them back though since the DNA is available thankfully.
... a boost to both science and tourism ?
Last edited by Panda-NZ-; 05-06-2021 at 03:32 PM.
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04-06-2021, 09:03 AM
#1168
Originally Posted by Panda-NZ-
We can bring them back though since the DNA is available thankfully.
a boost to both science and tourism ?
Unfortunately no, it's not possible at the moment, even with the DNA.
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04-06-2021, 09:51 AM
#1169
Originally Posted by Panda-NZ-
The extinction of the moa and beutiful haast eagle were on the maori.
The claims by some that Maori were good environmental guardians or "stewards" is rather unfounded given this history.
Maybe it's degrees of stewardship?
How much has been lost since colonisation?
The demise of the Haast Eagle was due to the loss of Moa (their primary prey).
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04-06-2021, 11:01 AM
#1170
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