Labour govt 2020-23

[nztx]

The indigenous owners of land currently being ‘carbon- farmed’ - by culturally appropriated non-native pine trees - obviously have no interest in planting the land in indigenous & native trees and bringing back culturally-significant and mana-enhancing toanga such as Kiwi and Kokako to those areas. Not when significant profits can be made for the benefit of tribal elites and insiders. But what does this say about the maori ‘world view’?

https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/07/15/m...cheme-changes/

Māori landowners head to UN in bid to stop Emissions Trading Scheme changes

Sat, Jul 15

‘Māori landowners are flying to the United Nations in a last-ditch effort to stop changes to the Emissions Trading Scheme.

The scheme forces polluters to offset their emissions by buying carbon credits.

Planting trees creates those credits, which can then be traded. It’s led to the creation of an industry of carbon farming which many Māori landowners rely on.

They say the Government's proposals could jeopardise the local carbon credit industry, which is worth an estimated $16 billion to the Māori economy.’

Oh .. so UN action to try to put a stop to curbs being put on the CC Gravy train ? .. like free money for nothing ?

[jonu]

Well the Herald are obviously morons then. 200/5 is 40, or 193/5 is 38 ish. Not sure how they get $151k? $151k would be insurmountable.

Not for me to defend the Herald, but I think they included all household, business and national debt in their figure.

[nztx]

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/kahu/rnz-...CGKRQZC3YCJ6E/

RNZ board member Jason Ake quits, telling board chair ‘I won’t be constrained because I’m on a Crown board’


Someone's not happy .. "Stuff It" - Willy Wonka & Chumpy won't be happy with another departure

[nztx]

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...OCREGDMYWX3DM/

Spies will take over: Controversial cybersecurity shakeup to go ahead from August, Little says


Another Little shake up .. look what got ignored

[blackcap]

Not for me to defend the Herald, but I think they included all household, business and national debt in their figure.

That would make sense then. Apologies for calling The Herald a moron.

Always good to compare apples with apples etc.

[Panda-NZ-]

Oh .. so UN action to try to put a stop to curbs being put on the CC Gravy train ? .. like free money for nothing ?

The UN will have such model countries as Saudi Arabia and Venezuela judging on the merits of the case.

You can't beat that panel !

[Logen Ninefingers]

More bad news for Robbo's ‘wing and a prayer’ blown budget.

https://www.interest.co.nz/rural-new...bank-economist

Fonterra seen as having to lower its milk price forecast soon, as one major bank economist slashes his forecast price by over a dollar

26th Jul 23, 1:13pm

‘Fonterra's very likely to cut its milk price forecast for farmers soon and it is looking like this season's milk price will be below the break-even point for many farmers, according to Westpac economists.

In a Dairy Update, Westpac senior agri economist Nathan Penny has slashed his own forecast for the current season milk price by over a dollar.
Giant dairy co-operative Fonterra has made an opening milk price forecast for the season that started last month of between $7.25-$8.75 per kilogram of milk solids, giving a 'mid-point' price of $8.
Penny, who has tended to be something of a milk price 'bull' - but has a good track record at picking the price - has now lowered his forecast to $7.80 from $8.90.

Last week, following another lacklustre GlobalDairyTrade auction result, ANZ agricultural economist Susan Kilsby, dropped her forecast by 50c and now has a price of $7.75.

Penny said that for many farmers, this season’s milk price is likely to be below their break-even point.’

[Daytr]

He’s correct that Ardern and her pliant media lapdogs cockled on about ‘far right’ and ‘overseas influence’ as regards the protests at Parliament, whereas anyone with eyes could see a plethora of Tino Rangatiratanga flags and accompanying maori radicals and professional protestors, Green hemp-smoking hippies and astrologers, anti-mandate people upset they had lost their jobs, various home-grown kooks and oddballs, plus a smattering of libertarians and independent thinkers.
No squads of Proud Boys from the US, no massed ranks of black-shirted neo-Nazis.

It wasn't just Ardern that mentioned far right influences and if you don't think there were people there influenced by the likes of Qanon, Brietbart & Trump and other far right misinformation peddlers then you are misguided.

But then again if someone jaywalked Ardern was blamed by her opponents so it wouldn't surprise me if there was this sort of skewed thinking.

Influenced is the key word, not that they had to be physically present.

[Logen Ninefingers]

It wasn't just Ardern that mentioned far right influences and if you don't think there were people there influenced by the likes of Qanon, Brietbart & Trump and other far right misinformation peddlers then you are misguided.

But then again if someone jaywalked Ardern was blamed by her opponents so it wouldn't surprise me if there was this sort of skewed thinking.

Influenced is the key word, not that they had to be physically present.

Yeah, there would have been ‘some’ people there ‘influenced’ by ‘Qanon, Brietbart & Trump and other far right misinformation peddlers’.
These people would have been far outnumbered by maori radicals and professional protestors, Green hemp-smoking hippies and astrologers, anti-mandate people upset they had lost their jobs, various home-grown kooks and oddballs, plus a smattering of libertarians and independent thinkers.
I’d say there were definitely some violent criminals who attended as well, the kind of people who gravitate to where ‘something is going down’ and would enjoy a confrontation with the hated police. The kind of people who would thrive on a riot and a running street battle with police.

[Daytr]

Yeah, there would have been ‘some’ people there ‘influenced’ by ‘Qanon, Brietbart & Trump and other far right misinformation peddlers’.
These people would have been far outnumbered by maori radicals and professional protestors, Green hemp-smoking hippies and astrologers, anti-mandate people upset they had lost their jobs, various home-grown kooks and oddballs, plus a smattering of libertarians and independent thinkers.
I’d say there were definitely some violent criminals who attended as well, the kind of people who gravitate to where ‘something is going down’ and would enjoy a confrontation with the hated police. The kind of people who would thrive on a riot and a running street battle with police.

Here is an interesting summary of the convoy and how the original organizers lost control of the movement.

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/hijacked-...ost-its-rudder