Labour govt 2020-23

[Blue Skies]

If anyone thinks Identity Politics (embraced by Labour, and the lifeblood of the Greens) and Post-Modern Marxism aren't intertwined, have a read of this.

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/natio...?ocid=msedgntp

I have no idea whether Strike 4 is racist or not, but this article would appear to embody the mantra that "the left eats itself." You can never be woke enough. Today's Progressive becomes by definition tomorrow's oppressor.

Ahhh, the earnestness of youth, isn't it appropriate & always been the case for that age group to be idealistic & want to shake things up a bit before they hit the grinding realties of of parenthood, debt & mortgages and mind numbing routine of work.
I seem to remember some fella writing these lyrics years ago ".....come mothers & fathers throughout the land, and don't criticize what you can't understand, your sons and your daughters are beyond your command, your old road is rapidly ageing, please get out of the new one if you can't lend a hand, for the times they are a' changing..."

Anyway, a bit of background to that story was there are a lot of Pacifica & Maori families living in low lying South Auckland which is likely to be first affected by climate change, plus needing to travel long distances to get to work & unable to afford either to move house or more expensive green friendly transport options which are often (unintentionally) disregarded by privileged idealistic young people from higher socioeconomic groups intent on rapid progress on policies around climate change.
Since Maori & Pacifica groups are most at risk & unfairly least able to but first to feel the burden of new Green policies, but were largely absent from representational at Auckland Strike 4' it was felt they should be given a stronger voice.

[jonu]

Ahhh, the earnestness of youth, isn't it appropriate & always been the case for that age group to be idealistic & want to shake things up a bit before they hit the grinding realties of of parenthood, debt & mortgages and mind numbing routine of work.
I seem to remember some fella writing these lyrics years ago ".....come mothers & fathers throughout the land, and don't criticize what you can't understand, your sons and your daughters are beyond your command, your old road is rapidly ageing, please get out of the new one if you can't lend a hand, for the times they are a' changing..."

Anyway, a bit of background to that story was there are a lot of Pacifica & Maori families living in low lying South Auckland which is likely to be first affected by climate change, plus needing to travel long distances to get to work & unable to afford either to move house or more expensive green friendly transport options which are often (unintentionally) disregarded by privileged idealistic young people from higher socioeconomic groups intent on rapid progress on policies around climate change.
Since Maori & Pacifica groups are most at risk & unfairly least able to but first to feel the burden of new Green policies, but were largely absent from representational at Auckland Strike 4' it was felt they should be given a stronger voice.

The problem is, the woke mob have been emerging from the universities for 10 years or so and are now beginning to land positions of responsibility, including government and classrooms where they can do damage. The Post-Modern Marxist's "Slow march through the institutions" is bearing fruit.

[BlackPeter]

I am convinced this will only end with civil wars across first world. Just look at France, where military already said they'll take over if the government doesn't deal with the crisis caused by migration.



No, left is not supporting democracy. Definitely not the current left in first world. Also mobs... like BLM riots right? And Hitler's party was leftist. I mean it's already happening, rewriting books, renaming goods etc.

Interesting statement, but not true. Have a look at this:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlo...re-socialists/

You realize that Hitlers party (the Nazis - i.e. so called National Socialists) incarcerated and often killed hundreds of thousand of Socialists? That the Nazis have been funded by the rich industrialists and supported by the people who wanted the German emperor back? Not a left wing party. Just populist, right wing and evil.

Hitler attracted the same kind of people like Trump (and any other populist despot) later on - and he used the same methods - making up big lies and finding people dumb enough to believe them.

Of course, if you consider e.g. Trump, Johnson and Bolsonaro as "left wing", than yes, this is what Hitler was as well ;

[iceman]

Well we had a referendum on asset sales and that was ignored.

Though the one on the flag wasn't thankfully.
I can't think of more of an assault than trying to remove the brithish flag.

Quite to the contrary. We had a general election where the PM was clear that he would partially sell a few SEOs. He won the election and did exactly what he campaigned on. Very much unlike the current lot implementing all sorts of stuff they never mentioned during the election campaign a few months ago.

[peetter]

Wrong thread

[jonu]

Interesting statement, but not true. Have a look at this:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlo...re-socialists/

You realize that Hitlers party (the Nazis - i.e. so called National Socialists) incarcerated and often killed hundreds of thousand of Socialists? That the Nazis have been funded by the rich industrialists and supported by the people who wanted the German emperor back? Not a left wing party. Just populist, right wing and evil.

Hitler attracted the same kind of people like Trump (and any other populist despot) later on - and he used the same methods - making up big lies and finding people dumb enough to believe them.

Of course, if you consider e.g. Trump, Johnson and Bolsonaro as "left wing", than yes, this is what Hitler was as well ;

Hitler and Stalin's methods were very similar, were they not?

Hitler started out with what appeared to be a Socialist agenda, with massive spending on infrastructure and efforts to get the German economy under control. From there he went full on fascist.

[dobby41]

Not much help when you are stuck on the Auckland motorway. Or miles from home....which is kinda the reason for having a vehicle. And the electricity?

Of course, if you have a petrol car and run out on the motorway having a petrol station 2km away doesn't help a lot either.

[ynot]

Of course, if you have a petrol car and run out on the motorway having a petrol station 2km away doesn't help a lot either.

Range anxiety is not synonymous with EVs for no reason

[dobby41]

Range anxiety is not synonymous with EVs for no reason

Range is only a problem if you need it - I wonder how many kms the average car does in the average day?
I suspect not enough to challenge the range of an EV.

[dobby41]

double-up again - the site is getting better but not right yet