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    Next time some Lefty rolls out the tired ‘maori are destitute and downtrodden due to the cruel neo-colonialists’ line, just hit them with facts.

    https://www.mfat.govt.nz/assets/Trad...-Economy_2.pdf

    ‘Māori own a significant proportion of assets in the primary sectors: 50% of the fishing quota, 40% of forestry, 30% in lamb production, 30% in sheep and beef production, 10% in dairy production and 10% in kiwifruit production.‘

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Winnie prob go with Labour again

    Nats getting worried - sending stuff like this out
    Taxpayers’ Union getting worried - sending out stuff like this.

    Dear Moka,
    Despite what the media would have you believe, the election is going down to the wire. Labour could cling on for another three years.

    Last night’s 1 News poll puts Winston Peters, yet again, in the kingmaker role. Will Peters pick National/ACT, or will he go with Labour/Greens/Māori Party? Under last night’s poll, Chris Luxon would need Winston Peters to form a government. But Chris Hipkins could form a government with him too.

    Moka, I can’t go into detail, but I’ve just seen other confidential polling that suggests that things are getting even worse for the centre-right and Christopher Luxon – with Winston Peters in an even stronger position.
    Winston Peters has said he won’t go with Labour this time, but he surprised us all before when he chose Jacinda Ardern/Labour over Bill English/National – despite saying before that election he would go with the highest polling party. This means that the result of this year's election is far from certain.

    Chris Hipkins was trying to claim he won’t work with Winston Peters. But he’s already walking that back! He told media earlier this week that “of course” he would pick up the phone to Winston Peters after the election. And in his position, who wouldn’t?!

    And we all know Mr Hipkins’ colleagues are desperate to cling to power and that Mr Peters will trade the two large parties against each other – at huge financial costs to the taxpayer.
    Which bloc is more likely to buy Winston’s support in the closed-door negotiations after the election? And at what cost to taxpayers?

    While the Taxpayers’ Union doesn’t endorse any particular party, it’s our job to expose bad policy and hold the Government to account. The New Zealand public still doesn't appreciate the fiscal disaster looming thanks to Grant Robertson's reckless fiscal management. And the path of undermining democratic accountability in favour of race-based unaccountable 'co-governance' needs to be exposed.

    That’s why we are working so hard to highlight the Government’s track record, but need one last push.
    In addition to the full page anti-Luxon adverts and billboards, Labour's proxy, the Council of Trade Unions, has now been caught out distributing made up claims about opposition parties' policies!

    It’s just like 2005 when Labour sent letters to Housing New Zealand tenants telling them that Don Brash’s National Party would evict them. It is disinformation, smears, and lies, designed to hoodwink voters.
    Sadly, these underhand tactics worked back in 2005 and, based on the latest polls, it seems they are working again. That’s why we need to respond and ramp up our efforts.Unlike the CTU, our campaigns focus on policies and facts – not disinformation and smears. We are not funded by big left-wing union dues and special interests – our campaigns are made possible by people like you chipping in what you can crowdfund holding the Government to account.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moka View Post
    Taxpayers’ Union getting worried - sending out stuff like this.

    Dear Moka,
    Despite what the media would have you believe, the election is going down to the wire. Labour could cling on for another three years.

    Last night’s 1 News poll puts Winston Peters, yet again, in the kingmaker role. Will Peters pick National/ACT, or will he go with Labour/Greens/Māori Party? Under last night’s poll, Chris Luxon would need Winston Peters to form a government. But Chris Hipkins could form a government with him too.

    Moka, I can’t go into detail, but I’ve just seen other confidential polling that suggests that things are getting even worse for the centre-right and Christopher Luxon – with Winston Peters in an even stronger position.
    Winston Peters has said he won’t go with Labour this time, but he surprised us all before when he chose Jacinda Ardern/Labour over Bill English/National – despite saying before that election he would go with the highest polling party. This means that the result of this year's election is far from certain.

    Chris Hipkins was trying to claim he won’t work with Winston Peters. But he’s already walking that back! He told media earlier this week that “of course” he would pick up the phone to Winston Peters after the election. And in his position, who wouldn’t?!

    And we all know Mr Hipkins’ colleagues are desperate to cling to power and that Mr Peters will trade the two large parties against each other – at huge financial costs to the taxpayer.
    Which bloc is more likely to buy Winston’s support in the closed-door negotiations after the election? And at what cost to taxpayers?

    While the Taxpayers’ Union doesn’t endorse any particular party, it’s our job to expose bad policy and hold the Government to account. The New Zealand public still doesn't appreciate the fiscal disaster looming thanks to Grant Robertson's reckless fiscal management. And the path of undermining democratic accountability in favour of race-based unaccountable 'co-governance' needs to be exposed.

    That’s why we are working so hard to highlight the Government’s track record, but need one last push.
    In addition to the full page anti-Luxon adverts and billboards, Labour's proxy, the Council of Trade Unions, has now been caught out distributing made up claims about opposition parties' policies!

    It’s just like 2005 when Labour sent letters to Housing New Zealand tenants telling them that Don Brash’s National Party would evict them. It is disinformation, smears, and lies, designed to hoodwink voters.
    Sadly, these underhand tactics worked back in 2005 and, based on the latest polls, it seems they are working again. That’s why we need to respond and ramp up our efforts.Unlike the CTU, our campaigns focus on policies and facts – not disinformation and smears. We are not funded by big left-wing union dues and special interests – our campaigns are made possible by people like you chipping in what you can crowdfund holding the Government to account.
    Everything you high-lighted is true, and good on the Taxpayers Union for pointing out the facts of what has been going on. Some Leftys will experience massive cognitive dissonance when confronted with uncomfortable truths, but that is to be expected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logen Ninefingers View Post
    Everything you high-lighted is true, and good on the Taxpayers Union for pointing out the facts of what has been going on. Some Leftys will experience massive cognitive dissonance when confronted with uncomfortable truths, but that is to be expected.
    And good on moka for funding them to make their work possible . Well done moka

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    And good on moka for funding them to make their work possible . Well done moka
    I would not fund that cause. A very unworthy cause in my opinion. I did donate some money for the Stop Three Waters campaign, which is why I get emails from the Taxpayers’ Union.

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    If this turns out country in the shift.

    Taxpayers latest poll

    National is up 0.9 points on last month's poll to 35.9% while Labour is also up by 1.4 points to 27.9%. While the Greens are down 2.1 points at 10.6%, they are now in third place ahead of the ACT Party, which has dropped sharply by 5.2 points to 9.1%.

    New Zealand First sees a big boost of 3 points to 6.9%. The Māori Party is also up 0.8 points on last month to 3.7%.

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    Latest poll - Chippie's definition of momentum = heading south vs Luxon :





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    Taxpayers Union polls always tend to lean right.

    My question is why is National not polling in the 40s. Anyone that's not blinkered can see Labour have had a shocker on many fronts yet National are not displaying the nation's confidence.
    By that polling we have a 3 party coalition!
    Nightmare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daytr View Post
    Taxpayers Union polls always tend to lean right.

    My question is why is National not polling in the 40s. Anyone that's not blinkered can see Labour have had a shocker on many fronts yet National are not displaying the nation's confidence.
    By that polling we have a 3 party coalition!
    Nightmare.
    Yawn - as opposed to the Coalition of Chaos with the racist Labour, Maori Party & Greens.

    Now that is a real nightmare!
    Last edited by Balance; 06-10-2023 at 07:45 PM.

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    Was it just me, or was anyone else surprised that Rawiri Waititi seemed to try and turn around the racist debate, in the wannabe's (so called "kingmakers") debate, to make it look like anyone questioning co-governance and so forth, are the racists? This is from a party founded solely on race.

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